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==शब्दकॊषः १==
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===Wikipedia शब्दस्य संस्कृत लेखनम् किं करोति ?===
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[[विशेष:Contributions/121.245.187.134|121.245.187.134]] ०७:४२, १ ऑक्टोबर २००८ (UTC)
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१० फेब्रुवारी २००७ रोजी मी याच शब्दांत हेच मत माडले होते.--J-[[सदस्य:J|J]] ०६:३६, १४ ऑक्टोबर २००८ (UTC)
==नामविश्व भाषान्तरणम्==
:प्रिय बन्धुवर्यः,
:मीडियाविकी इत्यस्याः सॉफ्टवेयर-प्रोग्रामर द्वारा संस्कृतभाषायां विकीपीडियासंस्करणे उपयुक्तपरिवर्तनार्थं वयं अधोहस्ताक्षरकृताः जनाः निम्नानुरोधाः अस्मिन् https://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/ जालपत्रे स्थातुं वाञ्छन्ति।
[[योजकः:Manidiwakar|Manidiwakar]] ०९:५२, ७ मेय् २०१० (UTC)
Undersigned requests openions or support from those who know Sanskrit Language.Please do reply at your earliest or post your comment directly at [http://sa.wikipedia.org/w/index.php?title=Wikipedia:%E0%A4%B5%E0%A4%BF%E0%A4%95%E0%A4%BF%E0%A4%AA%E0%A5%80%E0%A4%A1%E0%A4%BF%E0%A4%AF%E0%A4%BE:%E0%A4%97%E0%A5%8D%E0%A4%B0%E0%A4%BE%E0%A4%AE%E0%A4%B8%E0%A5%8D%E0%A4%AF_%E0%A4%9A%E0%A5%8C%E0%A4%AA%E0%A4%BE%E0%A4%B2%E0%A4%AE%E0%A5%8D&action=edit§ion=4 संस्कृत विकिपीडिया:ग्रामस्य चौपालम्]
:[[योजकः:Mahitgar|Mahitgar]] १५:०३, १ पौषमाघे २००९ (UTC)
:Dear Wikimedia Programmers,
:Since undersigned wants to create new articles in Sanskrit Language Wikipedia specialy in "Wikipedia" and "Help" Namespace;Correction in Namespace Names will help me and Sanskrit Language Wikipedia a Long way. We kindly request following localisation of Sanskrit Language Wikipedia at https://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/
*Namespace Current English Name 'Wikipedia' change the same to Sanskrit विकिपीडिया
**Namespace Current semi-English Name 'Wikipediaसंभाषणं' change the same to Sanskrit विकिपीडिया संभाषणं
*Namespace Current English Name 'MediaWiki' change the same to Sanskrit मिडियाविकि
**Namespace Current English Name 'MediaWiki talk' change the same to Sanskrit मिडियाविकि संभाषणं
*Namespace Current English Name 'Template' change the same to Sanskrit बिंबधर
**Namespace Current English Name 'Template talk' change the same to Sanskrit बिंबधर संभाषणं
*Namespace Current Sanskrit Name 'उपकार:'(stands for 'Help') change the same to Sanskrit साहाय्य
**Namespace Current Sanskrit Name 'उपकारसंभाषणं' (stands for 'Help talk') change the same to Sanskrit साहाय्य संभाषणं
:Notes:
:1)बिंबधर is a newly created applied term for Template.बिंब means an image that can transclude,and since a wikipedia template holds and helps transclude an image term created in sanskrit is बिंबधर
:2)Help Namespace 'उपकार:' is being requested to be changed since 'उपकार:' means 'favour' where as right word for 'Help' in Sanskrit is available and is साहाय्य so this namespace change is being requested.
:Please do reply at your earliest or post your comment directly at [http://sa.wikipedia.org/w/index.php?title=Wikipedia:%E0%A4%B5%E0%A4%BF%E0%A4%95%E0%A4%BF%E0%A4%AA%E0%A5%80%E0%A4%A1%E0%A4%BF%E0%A4%AF%E0%A4%BE:%E0%A4%97%E0%A5%8D%E0%A4%B0%E0%A4%BE%E0%A4%AE%E0%A4%B8%E0%A5%8D%E0%A4%AF_%E0%A4%9A%E0%A5%8C%E0%A4%AA%E0%A4%BE%E0%A4%B2%E0%A4%AE%E0%A5%8D&action=edit§ion=4 संस्कृत विकिपीडिया:ग्रामस्य चौपालम्]
:[[योजकः:Mahitgar|Mahitgar]] १५:०३, १ पौषमाघे २००९ (UTC)
Though I am not a great expert on Sanskrit, I do agree that second change to use "Sahay" instead of "upkar" makes sense. This is from my understanding of other indian languages , especially Hindi.
अहं समर्थन करोति| I agree with all the namespaces suggested, though I am not master or formally qualified in Sanskrit, but have studied sanskrit and am continuing studying it informally by reading scriptures and their translations, which has taught me a lot.--[[योजकः:Dsvyas|Dsvyas]] १२:५८, १४ पौषमाघे २००९ (UTC)
The Bhagavad Gītā (Sanskrit: भगवद्गीता, IPA: [ˈbʱəɡəʋəd̪ ɡiːˈtɑː], Song of God), also more simply known as Gita, is a sacred Hindu scripture, though its philosophies and insights are intended to reach beyond the scope of religion and to humanity as a whole. It is commonly referred to as the 'manual for mankind' and has been notably praised highly by not just the likes of MK Gandhi, but also, Aldous Huxley, Albert Einstein, Ralph Waldo Emerson, Carl Jung & Herman Hesse. [1][2] It is considered among the most important texts in the history of literature and philosophy.[3] The Bhagavad Gita comprises roughly 700 verses, and is a part of the Mahabharata. The teacher of the Bhagavad Gita is Lord Krishna, who is revered by Hindus as a manifestation of God (Parabrahman) itself,[3] and is referred to within as Bhagavan, the Divine One.[4]
==Main Page Help Request==
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==विश्वकोश or विज्ज्ञानकोश ?==
Dear Naveen Sankar,
:Thaksforyour proof reading support at [[बिंबधर:मुखपृष्ठ सुस्वागतम्]].Certainly I do not have required level of depth to make final decesion on proper translation of encyclopedia is विश्वकोश or विज्ज्ञानकोश ; at
[http://www.spokensanskrit.de/index.php?script=HK&tinput=encyclopedia&country_ID=&trans=Translate&direction=AU सम्भाषणसंस्कृतम शब्दकोशः] I found विश्वकोश as available translation. May be you are using word विज्ज्ञानकोश as विज्ज्ञान means wisdom also. If it is so then ok but I wish you give one more consideration that in contemporary language majiority uses word विज्ज्ञान for sciences, and since scope of encyclopedia is beyond sciences visitors for one layman visitor will get confused and may avoid contributtions to non science subjects and for second that majiority of Sanskrit knowing peopel are not sciences and technology friendly and might avoid to go beyond introductory paregraph because of science word so My humble request is to think of continuation of विश्वकोश word; ofcourse fianal decesion I will leave to experts like you.
Thanks and Regards
[[योजकः:Mahitgar|Mahitgar]] १५:३३, ४ फाल्गुने २००९ (UTC)
:विज्ञानकोश: सम्बन्धितम्
:नमस्ते महीत्गर्, I am not an expert in sanskrit, actcually I know only thr basicd. Eventhough, as far as my knowledge, sanskrit words have meaning some what different from that they have in their common usage in hindi, marathi, gujarati etc. For example विज्ञान in sanskrit means 'wisdom' or 'special knowledge' while the same word means 'science' in hindi. But if we make a compromise for hindi, we will have to suffer a lot in other parts of the sanskrit encyclopedia. There are much more citations - like अन्तरिक्ष in hindi means space, but in sanskrit it means atmosphere. And for science, the common usage in sanskrit is शास्त्रम्, not विज्ञान. And please remember that here we are creating a sanskrit encyclopedia, not a hindi/marathi/bangali one. विश्वकोश: is a fare translation for encyclopedia. But the word doesn't convey the entire meaning of an encyclopedia. विश्व means 'World' and कोश means 'Cell' or Collection. But विज्ञानकोश: is a better word for encyclopedia as it means collection of wisdom / knowledge. And please remember, the spoken sanskrit dictionary is also like wikipedia. any one can edit it. So I hope we can change to विज्ञानकोश: or to विश्वविज्ञानकोश:. Expecting your positive reply --[[योजकः:Naveen Sankar|Naveen Sankar]] ०४:५७, १० फाल्गुने २००९ (UTC)
==विकिपीडिया:लोगो,लेखन चर्चा==
:Request was made at [[https://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/show_bug.cgi?id=16857 bugzill bug no.16857]] bugzill has requested that,'''The image should be no bigger than 135 x 155 pixels, please fix it and reopen this bug.''' undersigned does not have requisite skills needed for the same please some one do help by providing needful change to bugzill
Thanks and regards
[[:sa:योजकः:Mahitgar|Mahitgar]] ०७:५८, ८ फेब्रुवारी २००९ (UTC)
(Copyright image from Marathi Language wikipedia is being taken for using as matches with gramatically correct Sanskrit language wording and writing system.Image was posted by user user:कौस्तुभ on Marathi Language Wikipedia & commons as authorised logo for Marathi Language Wikipedia and the same is proposed tobe used on Sanskrit Language Wikipedia )
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समर्थन करोति
[[:sa:योजकः:Mahitgar|Mahitgar]] ०९:२०, १ पौषमाघे २००९ (UTC)
:Please see and vote which one is better or suggest a new one: [[:mr:चित्र:wiki1.png]] [[:mr:चित्र:wiki3.png]] [[:mr:चित्र:myWiki4.png]] - [[:mr:सदस्य_चर्चा:कोल्हापुरी|कोल्हापुरी]] १३:२९, ९ फेब्रुवारी २००९ (UTC)
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:I like the one borrowed from Marathi Wikipedia -- [[:sa:चित्रं:Wiki.png]]
:[[योजकः:अभय नातू|अभय नातू]] १६:२९, १२ वैशाखज्येष्ठे २००९ (UTC)
How do we best translate Wikipedia The free encyclopedia to Sanskrit?
Wikipedia=विकिपीडिया
the free encyclopedia = मुक्त: विश्वकोशम्
Please comment. Thanks--[[योजकः:Eukesh|Eukesh]] १२:५७, २ आषाढश्रावणे २००७ (UTC)
:My own knowledge of Sanskrit isn't good enough for this! What type of free does मुक्त: mean? No cost or freedom to edit? [[योजकः:DaGizza|गिरिक]] ०५:४४, ८ आषाढश्रावणे २००७ (UTC)
::Wikipedia in Pali is called विकिकोष (विकि 'wiki' + कोष 'dictionary, reference work'), so I don't see why we shouldn't use a similar name. (I would suggest the slightly more normalized spelling विकिकोशः-- with a visarga.) 'The Free Encyclopedia' would be (with proper sandhi) मुक[[चित्रं:Example.jpg]]्तो विश्वकोशः . (मुक्त is free as in speech). --[[योजकः:शिवः|शिवः]] ०३:२१, ९ आषाढश्रावणे २००७ (UTC)
:::Gentlemen, 'Mukta' means 'free' as in 'free from any boundations'. For instance, a free bird is a 'muktpakshi'; a man freed from slavery is declared to be mukt; a soul free from the cycle of reincarnation is a 'muktaatmaa'. It cannot be used to portray free as in free of cost. It can, however be used to express free from copyright. The precise expression for the term free of cost would be nih-shulka or rather nishulk, which would literary mean devoid of any fee.
:::The current expression for Sanskrit Wikipedia, that is in use, is 'Swatantravishwavigyankoshah'. In my humble opinion it completely wrong. Swatantra is free as in sovereign; literary - 'having its own system [of governance]'. I have a limited experience of reading Sanskrit plays in original; and I have never come across an instance when this term was used to refer to anything but nation states.
:::The word Kosh does not properly means dictionary or reference work. Even though in Hindi language the word is used for that purpose. Etymologically, kosh is place of storage or rather safekeeping. The State Exchequer or rather the Royal Exchequer was refered to as Raj-Kosh.
:::In My opinion it wold be safer to seek expert advice on this matter from professors of any esteemed university. I would be happy to contact The Banaras Hindu University, whenever I visit the city of Varanasi in future. I request all of you to contact your local experts. [[विशेष:योगदान/112.79.149.57|112.79.149.57]] ०७:२३, २४ एप्रिल् २०१० (UTC) Prateek Mishra, (creativelipi.prateek @ gmail.com)
== निवेदनम् ==
नमस्कारः,
अहं संस्कृतभाषायाः विकिपीडियस्य (विकिपीडियायाः वा) नवीनसदस्योऽस्मि, परं अनेन सह मम परिचयः पुरातनः। समयाभावात् अहं अत्र प्रभूतयोगदानं कर्तुम् न शक्तोऽस्मि।
परंतु मम विनम्रतायुतं अवलोकनं अस्ति यत् संस्कृतविकिपीडियायाः दशा अतीव शोचनीया वर्तते। लेखानां गुणवत्ताऽपि नास्ति। तथा च संस्कृतभाषायाः स्तरोऽपि अतिनिम्नः। एषा स्थितिः संतोषप्रदा नास्ति। व्याकरणस्य सामान्यनियमाः अपि न पालिताः इति दृश्यते। (मम एषा सद्भावनायुता टिप्पणी अन्यथा न गृहीतव्या) मुखपृष्ठस्य भाषायामपि अशुद्ध्यः सन्ति (यथा - व्यासपिठ न तु व्यासपीठम्, दान न तु दानं, आज्ञार्थस्थाने लट्लकारस्य प्रयोगः, इत्याद्यः केवलाः लघुतमाः अशुद्ध्यः उद्धरामि)। अहं तु ताः शोधयितुं '''न शक्नोमि''' यतो हि '''तत्पृष्ठं यंत्रितं (सुरक्षितं) अस्ति'''।
'''यदि संबद्धः प्रबंधक-महोदयः (एडमिनिस्ट्रेटर्-महोदयः) अनुज्ञां ददाति तदा अहं तं शोधयितुं शक्नोमि।''' यद्यपि अहमपि परमविद्वान् नास्मि तथापि एतावतीं संस्कृतभाषां जानामि। यद्यपि ये केऽपि अत्र पूर्वेऽपि प्रयासं कुर्वाणः सन्ति तेषां प्रयासाः निस्संदेहं साधुवादार्हाः। -- धन्यवादः
:Dear Hemant Mahoday,
:I am quite pleased to see some one expert like you comes to Sanskrit wikipedia. Whatever sanskrit I used is very primary one taken from a dictionary.I learned and forgot sanskrit which i learned in my school days almost 30 yeaars back so your help is very much needed . All administrative changes also you can do at [http://translatewiki.net/w/i.php?title=Special%3ATranslate&task=untranslated&group=core-mostused&language=sa&limit=100 translate wiki].AT translate wiki you will get all the help to do proper trnaslations.There you will need to create your account once more and request for a permission but there after translation work is very easy.Wikipedians of all other languages do translations there only.I have done Marathi wikipedia translations at translate wiki only.
after some 50 edits or so here also you can take adminship yourself not a problem.
Thanks for your valuable and timely support to sanskrit wikipedia.
[[योजकः:Mahitgar|Mahitgar]] १६:३७, १० ज्येष्ठाषाढके २००९ (UTC)
'''Dear Sir,'''
First of all, thanks for the response. And also thanks for not taking my statements otherwise. I will try out your valuable suggestions. Also I want to add that gammatical errors should not stop us to contribute to Wikipedia (I have read in some Wikipedia page that editing is encouraged whether language is perfect or not). Only thing which made me think was that the front page and other presentation related pages should be as perfect as possible, so that they should give a sound launch-pad for further navigation and editing. For other articles it is not a big issue and those can be refined with time. In fact, in my school days, my Sanskrit teacher used to tell that it is a big hurdle in popularization of Sanskrit that people want to start using Sanskrit only when they will become perfect in it, but perfection is not possible without using.
The contribution you are giving to Sanskrit and Marathi Wikipedia is really praiseworthy. Also, I will ask again if I have some problem. --Thanks and Regards.
--[[योजकः:Hemant wikikosh|Hemant wikikosh]] ०७:२३, ११ ज्येष्ठाषाढके २००९ (UTC)
:भवदीय:
:You can keep you communication with me sanskrit, I do understand it, reading you communication will help me and others in refreshing our knowledge.Ofcourse It would take quite a time to answer a communication to you in sanskrit for two reasons,Presently I use online English-Sanskrit dictionary and write word by word so it will take long time to respond to you and I want to avoid that.Secondly some how I got busy again on Marathi Language Wikipedia help pages after a long time.I have worked more on starting phase of main pages and help pages for vairious sister projects. Feel comfortable to ask any question here.You can contact me on Marathi Wikipedia and Marathi Wiktionary if you find me absent here for a long time for any reason.Frankly that wont happen because I always start my wiki session patroling with sanskrit wikipedia.
No body sir over here, How about following sanskrit tradition of भवदीय:
Thanks and Regards
[[योजकः:Mahitgar|Mahitgar]] १३:५८, ११ ज्येष्ठाषाढके २००९ (UTC)
प्रिय महोदय,
मया तत्र विकिट्रांस् इत्यस्मिन् अनुज्ञार्थम् अनुरोधः (रिक्वेस्ट्) प्रेषितः अस्ति. तत्रतः उत्तरं प्रतीक्षिष्ये. अपि च, मया तत्र विकिपीडिया-लॉगिन्-नामतः भिन्नं नाम प्रयुक्तं - किं तेन किंचित् समस्या भविष्यति? अथवा उभे भिन्ने भवितुं शक्नुवन्तः? --[[योजकः:Hemant wikikosh|Hemant wikikosh]] ०९:५०, १२ ज्येष्ठाषाढके २००९ (UTC)
:प्रिय हेमंत महोदय,
:technically account on wikipedia and account on translate wiki are different, has no official corelation they want link to any of your wikipedia ID so in case any other user want to discuss about any edits made by you can leave a message on your wikipedia discussion page.You can have more than one account on translate wiki or wikipedia not a majior issue.
If you want to merge two different user accounts owned and remember password for all you accounts you can request merger of two accounts but merger is not compulsory.
[http://translatewiki.net/wiki/User:Mahitgar Here you can see my account on translate wiki]
Secondly please add <nowiki>{{#Babel:hi-3|sa-3|en-3}}</nowiki> on your user page at translate wiki.
Thanks and regards
[[योजकः:Mahitgar|Mahitgar]] १४:५०, १२ ज्येष्ठाषाढके २००९ (UTC)
महोदय, भवतः सहाय्येन कार्यं सिद्धम्. परन्तु वस्तुतः अधुना आरभ्यते कार्यम्.अहम् इदानीम् केचित् प्रयोगात्मकानि परिवर्तनानि कृतवान् अस्मि. तेषां प्रभावान् समीक्षिष्ये. अपि च अहम् केचित् दिवसार्थं स्व-संगणकात् दूरम् अस्मि, (कार्यार्थम्), अतः तत्पश्चादेव पूर्णक्षमतया लेखितुम् शक्ष्यामि. - धन्यवादाः --[[योजकः:Hemant wikikosh|Hemant wikikosh]] १३:०८, १३ ज्येष्ठाषाढके २००९ (UTC)
== अभिनन्दनानि ==
नमस्कारः माहितगारवर्य तथा च सर्वे उपयोजकाः,
'''अभिनन्दनानि।''' ट्रान्सलेट्विकि इत्यस्मिन् कृतानि परिवर्तनानि अद्य बहुकालप्रतीक्षापश्चात् संस्कृतविकिपीडियायां प्रतिबिम्बितानि सन्ति। -[[योजकः:Hemant wikikosh|Hemant wikikosh]] ०६:५९, १७ सेप्टेम्बरमासः २००९ (UTC)
==मुख्यपृष्ठम् conetnt==
:I want to strongly recommend that we drop दिनविशेषम् section from sanskrit wikipedia.Although this section looks simple at first look it is not so is very very heavy on time and effort consumption. And unfortunately we at sanskrit wikipedia do not have enough editorial manhour support to tkae care of that.If existing people first go for that articles will suffer very badly.
Secondly I will prefer 2 sections on main page that one gives links to Online sanskrit learning resources the second section gives info on Sanskrit teaching Universities and other sanskrit teaching centers.
On articles side we identify and target some 100 articles to full length, and some 5000 articles only first para in sanskrit.These first paras always be done maintain by high level experts. And we allow 2 show and hide sections first to include just transliteration to non devnagari script,and second to include translations of first para in all Indian languages. So it will be easier for people with leeser sanskrit knowledge like me to contribute while learning from the ideal one.
Rest of the people who do not have fluency in snskrit should also be allowed to contribute in second para onwards.
After acomplishing of first 5000 articles with first para then we take further target of 5000 in batches.
As I said let us have a policy of first para pure sanskrit , the rest of para let people use and import as many loan words from other languages as possible.Only pronouns only maintain in pure sanskrit ,import verbs wherever palatable and sankritise them as a धातू. While taking loan word first give preference to verbs of any indian language then to rest of the world langugaes and where we can not create words from धातू then agian from indian languge and not available in indian languge then world languges.The purpose is let languge flow as people languge and let sanskrit wikipedia become hub of inter languge cooperation for all indian languge wikipedia.
Well people can dis agree with me but let us please mention your disagreements here.
[[योजकः:Mahitgar|Mahitgar]] ०५:५०, १२ अक्टूबरमासः २००९ (UTC)
I agree this part to make Sanskrit Wikipedia as hub of inter language co-operation for all Indian Language Wikipedia. All Wikipedians who can speak any Indian Language can contribute here and experts can give light on them. Experts need to take care on maintaining the inter-communication with fixing typos, translation difficult words and other stuffs. All other people can help grow this wikipedia. Growth of Sanskrit Wikipdia should directly relate to growth of Indic Wikipedia and Open Knowledge.
[[योजकः:Ujjwol|Ujjwol]]
== शुभं भवतु दीपपर्व==
दीपोत्सवावसरे सर्वेभ्यः विकिपीडियाकारेभ्यः मित्रेभ्यः '''शुभाकांक्षाः''' ! -[[योजकः:Hemant wikikosh|Hemant wikikosh]] ०४:१३, १७ अक्टूबरमासः २००९ (UTC)
== आगन्तुकेभ्यः सन्देशः (किं करणीयम् इति) ==
यः कश्चिदपि आगच्छेत् विकिपीडियायां वै।
प्रथमं आधारनिर्माणे स्वयोगं दद्यात् इति।।
आधारस्तु भवनस्य सुदृढश्चेद् वर्तते।
सर्वमपि अन्यं तत्र सौख्येनैव स्थाप्यते।।
विक्यामस्मिन् मुख्ये पृष्ठे रक्तानि पदानि वै।
वर्तन्ते अरचिताः लेखास्तत्र इति कारणात्।।
रचितेषु तु लेखेषु तेषु नीलीभविष्यन्ति हि।
तस्माद् आगन्तुकाः शनैः लेखान् रचयन्तु तान्।।
रक्तं पदं हि विकिपीडियायां असुष्ठु इति मन्यते।
तस्मात् आगन्तुकाः शनैः लेखान् रचयन्तु तान्।।
लघवश्चेदपि लेखाः अर्थपूर्णा भवन्तु हि।
बहुमन्यन्ते ते अत्र ज्ञानवर्धनकारणात्।।
-[[योजकः:Hemant wikikosh|Hemant wikikosh]] ११:२०, १ जून् २०१० (UTC)
==creating the Sanskrit Wikisource==
I have submitted the proposal for creating the Sanskrit Wikisource. It is available at: http://meta.wikimedia.org/wiki/Requests_for_new_languages/Wikisource_Sanskrit
For time being, I have added only you two as the users interested in Sanskrit wikisource. If you know any one else interested in Sanskrit wiki source, please send me their details. Also make sure you cast your vote in the Arguments in favour section.
Please let me know in case there are any issues
Shiju Alex
==2010 Fundraising Is Almost Here==
[[File:Wikimedia_Foundation_RGB_logo_with_text.svg|80px|left]] Hello Wikipedians, I am Theo and I am working for the Wikimedia Foundation during the 2010 Fundraiser. My job is to be the liaison between your community and the Foundation. This year's fundraiser is intended to be a collaborative and global effort; we recognize that banner messages which may perform well in the United States don't necessarily translate well, or appeal to international audiences. <Br>
I'm contacting you as I am currently looking for translators who are willing to contribute to this project by helping translate and localize messages into different languages and suggesting messages that would appeal to your readers on the Fundraising Meta Page. We've started the setup on [http://meta.wikimedia.org/wiki/Fundraising_2010 meta] for both [http://meta.wikimedia.org/wiki/Fundraising_2010/Messages banner submission], [http://meta.wikimedia.org/wiki/Fundraising_2010/Banner_testing statistical analysis], and [http://meta.wikimedia.org/wiki/Fundraising_2010/Committee grouping volunteers together].<br>Use the talk pages on meta, talk to your local communities, talk to others, talk to us, and add your feedback to the proposed messages as well! I look forward to working with you during this year's fundraiser. If someone could translate this message I would really appreciate it so that everyone is able to understand our goals and contribute to this year's campaign.<br> [[user:Theo (WMF)|Theo (WMF)]] २१:२२, २० अष्टोबर् २०१० (UTC)
:<small>Moved from [[विकिपीडिया:समुदाय द्वारकम्]]</small>
== Samskrutha Bharathi ==
Hey Vibhi, How did you contact them ? What did you ask them and what was the reply? I know a lot to ask for, please tell us for the good of community. - रामप्रियः १०:५५, १४ मेय् २०११ (UTC)
I contacted them by their website. They replied that How can they help us. I said them that it would be great if they can contribute to this wiki. [[योजकः:Vibhijain|Vaibhav Jain]] ११:००, १४ मेय् २०११ (UTC)
:In the recent budget, Karnataka Govt had allocated Rs 1Cr grant to Samskrutha Bharathi for developing this Wikipedia. I don't see any activity happening here on that front. How do they propose to help the wikipedia ? - रामप्रियः ११:०३, १४ मेय् २०११ (UTC)
Really! What do Karnataka government has to do with this wiki? And why Sanskrita Bharati is not doing anything? [[योजकः:Vibhijain|Vaibhav Jain]] ११:०७, १४ मेय् २०११ (UTC)
: Karnataka Govt has given grants for revival of the language. The grant is given to Samskrutha Bharathi. No idea on what is happening. - रामप्रियः ११:१३, १४ मेय् २०११ (UTC)
MikeLynch is involved in getting in touch with Samskrita Bharati. He didn't told about this. [[योजकः:Vibhijain|Vaibhav Jain]] ११:१४, १४ मेय् २०११ (UTC)
: Let's hear from MikeLynch here. It will be a great boost to this Wikipedia if Samskrutha Bharathi volunteers start contributing here. I had seen/read some volunteers had been part of a Wiki meetup in Bangalore. Maybe some of them are already editors here. - रामप्रियः ११:२७, १४ मेय् २०११ (UTC)
:I once saw a Samskrita Bharati Representative but he didn't contributed for years. Samskrita Bharati people are genius in Sanskrit. [[योजकः:Vibhijain|Vaibhav Jain]] ११:३०, १४ मेय् २०११ (UTC)
::I take great pleasure in saying that people from Samskritha Bharathi, Bangalore, are indeed contributing to Sanskrit Wikipedia. [[User:Shijualex|Shijualex]] had conducted a workshop in the Samskrita Bharati premises in Girinagar, a workshop over which I presided as well. [[User:SumanaKoundinya|SumanaKoundinya]] has been instrumental in setting this collaboration up, and I, as a coordinator for this project, am confident about its success. It will indeed be a great boost. '''[[User:MikeLynch|<span style="color:#000080">Yes </span><span style="color:#00BFFF">Michael?</span>]] •[[User talk:MikeLynch|<sup><span style="color:green"><small>Talk</small></span></sup>]]''' १२:०७, १४ मेय् २०११ (UTC)
: Sure it will help our wiki. [[योजकः:Vibhijain|Vaibhav Jain]] १२:०८, १४ मेय् २०११ (UTC)
::And while it is true that Rs. 1 crore has been allocated by the Government of Karnataka for this purpose, Sumana informs me that there are still some processes involved, such as cabinet approval perhaps. While I remain optimistic about that funding being approved, I wouldn't bank too much upon it. '''[[User:MikeLynch|<span style="color:#000080">Yes </span><span style="color:#00BFFF">Michael?</span>]] •[[User talk:MikeLynch|<sup><span style="color:green"><small>Talk</small></span></sup>]]''' १२:११, १४ मेय् २०११ (UTC)
::: That's right. Money is not going to develop the content here, isn't it!!! Nice to know that people from Samskrutha Bharathi are already involved here. I am curious to know what really happened in the workshop. Do you have details about it ? - रामप्रियः १२:२६, १४ मेय् २०११ (UTC)
:There are free Sanskrit classes. I have visited once with my father in the delhi branch. [[योजकः:Vibhijain|Vaibhav Jain]] १२:३०, १४ मेय् २०११ (UTC)
::::Sadly, it was more of an informal workshop, and I don't think anyone prepared the minutes of it. But I can tell you what happened there: Around 20 people, well versed in Sanskrit attended the meet. [[User:Shijualex|Shijualex]] explained the basics of Wikipedia to them. Many of them were very enthusiastic about it. We had a fruitful open discussion session, wherein we discussed topics like ''automated translation'', and ''copyrights''. '''[[User:MikeLynch|<span style="color:#000080">Yes </span><span style="color:#00BFFF">Michael?</span>]] •[[User talk:MikeLynch|<sup><span style="color:green"><small>Talk</small></span></sup>]]''' १२:३७, १४ मेय् २०११ (UTC)
:Samskrita Bharati is an international organization and this can help us in encouraging other users which are not from India. [[योजकः:Vibhijain|Vaibhav Jain]] १२:३९, १४ मेय् २०११ (UTC)
:::::[[User:SumanaKoundinya|SumanaKoundinya]] also informs me that there was one more short session held in St. Joseph's college, and another one is being planned in Sringeri. I plan to hold a talk/workshop in Mangalore (still in the pipeline), and probably some more in Bangalore itself. '''[[User:MikeLynch|<span style="color:#000080">Yes </span><span style="color:#00BFFF">Michael?</span>]] •[[User talk:MikeLynch|<sup><span style="color:green"><small>Talk</small></span></sup>]]''' १२:४०, १४ मेय् २०११ (UTC)
:I can also plan a workshop, most probably in the Samskrita Bharati office here in Delhi. [[योजकः:Vibhijain|Vaibhav Jain]] १२:४१, १४ मेय् २०११ (UTC)
::Vaibhav, a good place to start would be your school. Ask your principal/coordinator, conduct a session, and encourage your classmates and teachers to contribute! It will give you some hands on experience as well. '''[[User:MikeLynch|<span style="color:#000080">Yes </span><span style="color:#00BFFF">Michael?</span>]] •[[User talk:MikeLynch|<sup><span style="color:green"><small>Talk</small></span></sup>]]''' १२:४५, १४ मेय् २०११ (UTC)
:The problem is that our school does not have only Sanskrit as th third language, we even have german and french and most students have taken german. Still I will try. [[योजकः:Vibhijain|Vaibhav Jain]] १२:४८, १४ मेय् २०११ (UTC)
::No worries. Do try your best. Even if it is a crowd of 15-20, it is worth conducting a workshop. I will provide any necessary slides/material. '''[[User:MikeLynch|<span style="color:#000080">Yes </span><span style="color:#00BFFF">Michael?</span>]] •[[User talk:MikeLynch|<sup><span style="color:green"><small>Talk</small></span></sup>]]''' १२:५४, १४ मेय् २०११ (UTC)
:I can help in a workshop if it is in the Samskrita Bharati branch here. I can provide the contact numbers and can present th presentation. [[योजकः:Vibhijain|Vaibhav Jain]] १२:५९, १४ मेय् २०११ (UTC)
==Solution for local requests==
I would like to make a proposal for solution of local request rights here. There is only one inactive crat on this wiki, as such according to policy, you may request permanent crat rights to handle local requests on sa.wiki. As per policy, there needs to be two active crats, you can nominate two people from the active community here, and then vote on them till a consensus is reached. After 2 weeks, you may request permanent crat rights from Stewards to handle local requests. I would recommend that the two nominees to have been active here for a while and know about wiki policy/rights. [[योजकः:Theo10011|Theo10011]] १५:३८, १८ मेय् २०११ (UTC)
: I agree. But we don't need a crat as the community is still small but this advice would be taken seriously. Thanks. [[योजकः:Vibhijain|Vaibhav Jain]] १५:४१, १८ मेय् २०११ (UTC)
::Theo, I think at least 15 votes are required to close a crat request as successful, or at least [[:meta:Requests_for_comment/Minimum_voting_requirements#Minimum_requirements_to_elect_Bureaucrats|this RfC]] says so. Or am I inaccurate? '''[[User:MikeLynch|<span style="color:#000080">Yes </span><span style="color:#00BFFF">Michael?</span>]] •[[User talk:MikeLynch|<sup><span style="color:green"><small>Talk</small></span></sup>]]''' १६:४५, १८ मेय् २०११ (UTC)
:::Yup, The 15 count isn't exact but its around there. You can def. get that much support if you forward the request to the India Mailing list. Its an issue thats bound to come up again and again, its better to be addressed now. And you DO need a crat, so that local community can decide on its own, stewards should not be looked on to mediate any local affairs. [[योजकः:Theo10011|Theo10011]] १८:००, १८ मेय् २०११ (UTC)
::::That's true, but then, there are very little people here who have had a lot of experience on wikimedia projects. '''[[User:MikeLynch|<span style="color:#000080">Yes </span><span style="color:#00BFFF">Michael?</span>]] •[[User talk:MikeLynch|<sup><span style="color:green"><small>Talk</small></span></sup>]]''' १८:३१, १८ मेय् २०११ (UTC)
==Corrections required in main page==
The word विकिपीडिय is written as विकिपीडि'''या''' in some places. Why old logo is used in main page when new logo is available? --[[योजकः:Shijualex|Shijualex]] १६:०३, १९ मेय् २०११ (UTC)
:Will look into it. '''[[User:MikeLynch|<span style="color:#000080">Yes </span><span style="color:#00BFFF">Michael?</span>]] •[[User talk:MikeLynch|<sup><span style="color:green"><small>Talk</small></span></sup>]]''' १६:१०, १९ मेय् २०११ (UTC)
::Actually, I think it is supposed to be विकिपीडिया itself. Or am I wrong? '''[[User:MikeLynch|<span style="color:#000080">Yes </span><span style="color:#00BFFF">Michael?</span>]] •[[User talk:MikeLynch|<sup><span style="color:green"><small>Talk</small></span></sup>]]''' १६:१५, १९ मेय् २०११ (UTC)
//I think it is supposed to be विकिपीडिया itself.//
Sorry, you need to attend a Sanskrit class :). --[[योजकः:Shijualex|Shijualex]] १६:२४, १९ मेय् २०११ (UTC)
:I was referring to the discussion we had in a mailing list along with Naveen Sankar regarding the name, I do not know the outcome of the discussion, so I asked. '''[[User:MikeLynch|<span style="color:#000080">Yes </span><span style="color:#00BFFF">Michael?</span>]] •[[User talk:MikeLynch|<sup><span style="color:green"><small>Talk</small></span></sup>]]''' १६:२७, १९ मेय् २०११ (UTC)
:Here is the link to new logo. http://commons.wikimedia.org/wiki/File:Wikipedia-logo-v2-sa.svg. Discuss it in community and ask for suggestions before applying for any logo update. --[[योजकः:Shijualex|Shijualex]] १७:३६, १९ मेय् २०११ (UTC)
::Okay. '''[[User:MikeLynch|<span style="color:#000080">Yes </span><span style="color:#00BFFF">Michael?</span>]] •[[User talk:MikeLynch|<sup><span style="color:green"><small>Talk</small></span></sup>]]''' १७:५६, १९ मेय् २०११ (UTC)
==Citations==
Dear all,
Just recently, I have imported the [[Template:Cite web|Cite web]] and [[Template:Cite news|Cite news]] templates. This will make referencing easier. I strongly suggest that all of us make use of citations, and reference our articles. If you have any queries, you can ask me on my talk page. Thank you! '''[[User:MikeLynch|<span style="color:#000080">Yes </span><span style="color:#00BFFF">Michael?</span>]] •[[User talk:MikeLynch|<sup><span style="color:green"><small>Talk</small></span></sup>]]''' ०६:०४, २० मेय् २०११ (UTC)
PS: Some of the citation templates need translation. Any help there would be appreciated. '''[[User:MikeLynch|<span style="color:#000080">Yes </span><span style="color:#00BFFF">Michael?</span>]] •[[User talk:MikeLynch|<sup><span style="color:green"><small>Talk</small></span></sup>]]''' ०६:०४, २० मेय् २०११ (UTC)
==Main page==
Hello all,
Some of the Wikipedia images used in the main page reads विकिपीडिया, whereas the logo should read विकिपीडिय. I need the community's approval to change all of that to the correct spelling. Kindly comment. '''[[User:MikeLynch|<span style="color:#000080">Yes </span><span style="color:#00BFFF">Michael?</span>]] •[[User talk:MikeLynch|<sup><span style="color:green"><small>Talk</small></span></sup>]]''' ०६:११, २० मेय् २०११ (UTC)
: Both the forms seems good for me. I guess there has already been a discussion over this and people have settled for विकिपीडिय. I will also support this form. Moreover, it is easy to make verb-tense forms out of विकिपीडिय like विकिपीडियायाम् विकिपीडियस्य. Other Sanskrit pundits, correct me if I am wrong. - रामप्रियः ०७:२७, २० मेय् २०११ (UTC)
:We will have to change some texts also in the [[फलकम्:मुख्यपृष्ठं - स्वागतम्]]. [[योजकः:Vibhijain|Vaibhav Jain]] ०७:५७, २० मेय् २०११ (UTC)
::sa: शिजुएलेक्स वर्येण उपरि वर्णितः स्वसंशयः समीचीनमेव वर्तते। तत्तु विकिपीडिया इत्येव भवितव्यम्। <br/>
::en: I see there is some doubt in our community whether it should be विकिपीडिया or विकिपीडिय. To me, there is no doubt that it should be विकिपीडिया not विकिपीडिय. Why? Because in any language proper noun is kept intact while translating. <br/>
::Although Sanskrit has some exceptions in cases where original word is not much Sanskrit-friendly (i.e. word of which easy inflection not be possible), it is then modified to some extent. But instant word is not such one. We can use it as such (विकिपीडिया). But again if we use it in पुल्लिंग there will be some problem in making its शब्दरूप, which would then be like राजन् (राजा). So for making it 'layman-friendly' it is better to use the name in स्त्रीलिंग like बालिका. I mean instead of becoming a great राजा, better to be a बालिका of childly nature, for the sake of new wikipedians :) .Now I present शब्दरूप of विकिपीडिया (स्त्रीलिंग) herewith: <br/>
::विकिपीडिया विकिपीडिये विकिपीडियाः (Use it when wikipedia is subject, OR even mentioning the name of विकिपीडिया)<br/>
::विकिपीडियां विकिपीडिये विकिपीडियाः (Use it for "To wikipedia")<br/>
::विकिपीडियया विकिपीडियाभ्यां विकिपीडियाभिः (By wikipedia)<br/>
::विकिपीडियायै विकिपीडियाभ्यां विकिपीडियाभ्यः (For wikipedia)<br/>
::विकिपीडियायाः विकिपीडिभ्यां विकिपीडियाभ्यः (From wikipedia)<br/>
::विकिपीडियायाः विकिपीडिययोः विकिपीडियानां (Of wikipedia)<br/>
::विकिपीडियायां विकिपीडिययोः विकिपीडियासु (In wikipedia OR On wikipedia)<br/>
::हे विकिपीडिये विकिपीडिये विकिपीडियाः ('O My Dear Wikipedia' :) ).<br/>
::Because of above-said reasons I used this form of the word in the स्वागत template and other basic objects. So please change the logo accordingly. If somebody still has some doubt then please express it. Thanks. - [[User:Hemant wikikosh|Hemant wikikosh]] ([[User talk:Hemant wikikosh|चर्चा]]) १५:०२, ३० जून् २०११ (UTC)
:::I agree with you. Will wait for some days to enable users to comment. '''[[User:MikeLynch|<span style="color:#000080">Rao</span><span style="color:#00BFFF">7</span>]] •[[User talk:MikeLynch|<sup><span style="color:green"><small>Talk</small></span></sup>]]''' १०:३५, २ जूलय् २०११ (UTC)
==Appeal==
Dear fellow editors, I have a few suggestions to make:
*It will be good if we all communicate in Sanskrit onwiki (however ironic may be the fact that I'm typing this out in English), and I think Bhawani Gautam and Shijualex will feel similarly, because they have made similar appeals.
*We must avoid creation of very short articles, and we must give preference to quality over quantity.
I request editors to comment on this and apply it accordingly to their edits. '''[[User:MikeLynch|<span style="color:#000080">Rao</span><span style="color:#00BFFF">7</span>]] •[[User talk:MikeLynch|<sup><span style="color:green"><small>Talk</small></span></sup>]]''' ०७:५८, २४ मेय् २०११ (UTC)
:Important issues. [[योजकः:Vibhijain|♛♚★Vaibhav Jain★♚♛]] ०८:०६, २४ मेय् २०११ (UTC)
::I think we'll need more comments than that. '''[[User:MikeLynch|<span style="color:#000080">Rao</span><span style="color:#00BFFF">7</span>]] •[[User talk:MikeLynch|<sup><span style="color:green"><small>Talk</small></span></sup>]]''' ०८:२४, २४ मेय् २०११ (UTC)
::: एतत् विषयॆ अहम् मैक्लिन्च् महॊदयस्य समर्थनम् कर्तुम् इच्छामि। सर्वॆ प्रबन्धकाः सम्स्कृतॆ एव सम्भाषणम् कुर्वन्तु। - रामप्रियः १७:३७, २४ मेय् २०११ (UTC)
== साप्ताहिक ऎआर्सी(IRC) सभा ==
प्रिय सहसम्पादकाः युष्माकम् सानिध्यॆ एकः चर्चा विषयम् च निवॆदनम्। एतत् समुदाय उन्नत्यार्थम् च विविध विषयॆ चर्चार्थम् साप्ताहिक सभायाः अवश्यकता विद्यतॆ। सभा कालम् च वासरः निर्णय कर्तुम् युष्माकम् अभिप्रायाः अत्र वदन्तु। - रामप्रियः १९:२८, २५ मेय् २०११ (UTC)
En : Dear fellow editors, a request and a topic for discussion for you. For the progress of this community and to discuss various topics, there is a need for Weekly meeting. To decide on time and day for the meeting, please express your opinions here.
:प्रति शनिवारम्/रविवारम्? '''[[User:MikeLynch|<span style="color:#000080">Rao</span><span style="color:#00BFFF">7</span>]] •[[User talk:MikeLynch|<sup><span style="color:green"><small>Talk</small></span></sup>]]''' ०९:४७, २६ मेय् २०११ (UTC)
:: मम अवभिप्राय च। वारान्ते सर्वेषाम् सानिध्ये समयम् लभते। रात्रि ९:०० उचितम् किम् ? एवम् भानुवारम् श्रेष्टम् इति मम अभिप्रायम्। - रामप्रियः <sup>[[योजकसम्भाषणम्:Harshavs|सम्भाषणम्]]</sup> १८:०९, २६ मेय् २०११ (UTC)
::I think 8'o clock would be fine. [[योजकः:Vibhijain|♛♚★Vaibhav Jain★♚♛]] ०९:२४, ८ जून् २०११ (UTC)
== मुख्यपृष्टॆ प्रमुख चित्रम् इति विभागॆण निर्मूलनम् ==
प्रिय सहसम्पादकाः मुख्यपृष्टॆ प्रमुख कित्रम् इति एकः विभागः विद्यतॆ। अस्मिन् विभागॆ कॆवलम् एकमॆव चित्रम् प्रदर्श्यतॆ। कॊऽपि विश्लॆषणम् या शीर्षक न विद्यतॆ। एतत् विभागस्य कॊऽपि हॆतु न व्यक्त। एतत् विभाग्गस्य निर्मूलनात् पृष्टॆ अधिक रिक्त लभतॆ। कृपया युष्माकम् मन अत्र लिखन्तु। - रामप्रियः १९:४२, २५ मेय् २०११ (UTC)
En : Dear fellow editors, In main page, there is प्रमुख कित्रम् section, which has only one picture and absolutely no description/title. There is no purpose for this section. Removing this section will give us space on the page. Please express your opinions.
:'''Agree'''. चित्रानी कामन्स् संग्रहालयात् अस्ति। संस्क्रुत विकिपीडियस्य कोपि संबन्धः नास्ति। '''[[User:MikeLynch|<span style="color:#000080">Rao</span><span style="color:#00BFFF">7</span>]] •[[User talk:MikeLynch|<sup><span style="color:green"><small>Talk</small></span></sup>]]''' ०९:४५, २६ मेय् २०११ (UTC)
{{cross}} '''Oppose''' अहम एतद भजते यत् वयं चित्रे सह परिचय लिखामि।
en:I prefer that we should put the introduction of the picture in Sanskrit. It is a automatic template and help us in updating the main page. We should think to replace it when we will get a very active community. [[योजकः:Vibhijain|♛♚★Vaibhav Jain★♚♛]] १४:१४, २६ मेय् २०११ (UTC)
:I am really unsure how this is connected to having a "very active community". Anyway, I don't mind putting up a caption of it. '''[[User:MikeLynch|<span style="color:#000080">Rao</span><span style="color:#00BFFF">7</span>]] •[[User talk:MikeLynch|<sup><span style="color:green"><small>Talk</small></span></sup>]]''' १४:५६, २६ मेय् २०११ (UTC)
:Well we need a such a active community that we can make it sure that it is updated everyday. [[योजकः:Vibhijain|♛♚★Vaibhav Jain★♚♛]] १५:०३, २६ मेय् २०११ (UTC)
::रामप्रियः was appealing for its removal. Anyway, we have to reduce the size of the box and give a proper caption. '''[[User:MikeLynch|<span style="color:#000080">Rao</span><span style="color:#00BFFF">7</span>]] •[[User talk:MikeLynch|<sup><span style="color:green"><small>Talk</small></span></sup>]]''' १५:११, २६ मेय् २०११ (UTC)
संस्कृतसंबन्धानि चित्राणि एव उपयोजनियानि इति अहं मन्ये।
निदर्शनानि:
संस्कृतसाहित्यसंबन्धचित्राणि : [[Image:Ravi Varma-Shakuntala columbia2.jpg|thumbnail|200px| राजा रवि वर्मना रचितम् शकुन्तलायाः चित्रम्]]
भारतेतिहाससंबन्धानि चित्राणि:
इत्यादीनि।
[[User:Sarpasarpeti101|Sarpasarpeti101]]
:I '''agree''' with Sarpasarpeti101. '''[[User:MikeLynch|<span style="color:#000080">Rao</span><span style="color:#00BFFF">7</span>]] •[[User talk:MikeLynch|<sup><span style="color:green"><small>Talk</small></span></sup>]]''' १६:३१, २६ मेय् २०११ (UTC)
:: यदि वयम् चित्र विभागम् रक्षयितुम् निश्चयम् कर्तारः तदा शीर्षिक समेत चित्रम् प्रकाशयितुम् एवम् सम्स्कृतसम्बन्ध चित्रानि प्रकाशयितुम् मम कोऽपि आक्षेपणम् नास्ति। - रामप्रियः <sup>[[योजकसम्भाषणम्:Harshavs|सम्भाषणम्]]</sup> १८:०५, २६ मेय् २०११ (UTC)
==हलन्तस्य उपयोगः==
While writing sanskrit the short a sound is pronounced unless its absence is specifically marked by means of a halanta. I request fellow users to follow this norm. ex The article on nakshatra abhijit was titled अभिजित abhijita rather than अभिजित् abhijit. i think this convention should be followed while writing non sanskrit names to
[[User:Sarpasarpeti101|Sarpasarpeti101]]
: एतत् विषयॆ मम सम्पूर्ण सम्मतम् मम स्वाभिप्राय च। एतत् विषयॆ अहम् भवानि गौतम् Adroit सम्पादकयॊः सानिध्यॆ चर्चा कृत अस्मि [[योजकसम्भाषणम्:Bhawani_Gautam#सिक्किम् सम्बंधित लॆखनानि|तत्र]] च [[सम्भाषणम्:उत्तराखण्ड्|तत्र]] पश्यन्तु। - रामप्रियः <sup>[[योजकसम्भाषणम्:Harshavs|सम्भाषणम्]]</sup> १७:३६, २६ मेय् २०११ (UTC)
==noun forms==
i think a consensus has to be reached as to the case used in titles of articles and categories. I think the prathama vibhakti or nominative would be the most appropriate.
ex. an article on kalidasa should be titled कालिदासः instead of कालिदास।
an article on fruits should be titled फलम् instead of फल
[[User:Sarpasarpeti101|Sarpasarpeti101]]
:I '''agree''' with your proposal. '''[[User:MikeLynch|<span style="color:#000080">Rao</span><span style="color:#00BFFF">7</span>]] •[[User talk:MikeLynch|<sup><span style="color:green"><small>Talk</small></span></sup>]]''' १६:४६, २६ मेय् २०११ (UTC)
:: मम समर्थनम् च। परन्तु एकम् उपक्षेप च। कालिदास also should be created and redirected to कालिदासः , it will help in searching for this article. Users need not put the ending ' ः' . - रामप्रियः <sup>[[योजकसम्भाषणम्:Harshavs|सम्भाषणम्]]</sup> १७:४६, २६ मेय् २०११ (UTC)
==Plan==
I think we should work on stub articles to make the at least 200 words long and concentrate on quality. We should work on the information provided by old Sanskrit books and the past because people search here to get information. We should have plan & project, routine and work division among active community members. Bureaucrat may decide and make a strategic plan if he wish. But it should be acceptable to all active contributors according to their ability.[[योजकः:Bhawani Gautam|भवानी गौतम]] ०२:०१, २७ मेय् २०११ (UTC)
:I completely agree with your proposal. Very short articles kill small Wikipedias. We must collaborate and develop articles. '''[[User:MikeLynch|<span style="color:#000080">Rao</span><span style="color:#00BFFF">7</span>]] •[[User talk:MikeLynch|<sup><span style="color:green"><small>Talk</small></span></sup>]]''' ०४:४०, २७ मेय् २०११ (UTC)
:Kills? Too funny! But still I agree with you. [[योजकः:Vibhijain|♛♚★Vaibhav Jain★♚♛]] १५:२१, २९ मेय् २०११ (UTC)
::Oh you never know it till it happens to you. Never mind, nothing funny about that. '''[[User:MikeLynch|<span
style="color:#000080">Rao</span><span style="color:#00BFFF">7</span>]] •[[User talk:MikeLynch|<sup><span style="color:green"><small>Talk</small></span></sup>]]''' १९:३७, २९ मेय् २०११ (UTC)
actually i was wondering if thr's some kind of a tool availble to chk what do normally people search for in samskrit wiki most importantly, then we could set our priorities on them. this works fine specially for a team like ours at samskrita bharati...can there be some help on the same?
[[User:Shubhabangalore|Shubhabangalore]] ([[User talk:Shubhabangalore|चर्चा]]) ०५:४०, १८ जून् २०११ (UTC)
:Well, currently, I don't think there is any such tool. But, I have heard of a similar thing in English Wikipedia (those familiar with [[:en:WP:DYK|WP:DYK]] would have heard about it). I'll try and find out details about it. '''[[User:MikeLynch|<span style="color:#000080">Rao</span><span style="color:#00BFFF">7</span>]] •[[User talk:MikeLynch|<sup><span style="color:green"><small>Talk</small></span></sup>]]''' ०९:२६, १८ जून् २०११ (UTC)
== चौपालम् इति पदम् सम्स्कृते नास्ति==
चौपालम् इति पदस्य एतत् पृष्टशीर्षिके योजितम् अस्ति। परन्तु एतत् शब्दम् मम अभिप्राये सम्स्कृते नास्ति। चौपाल् इति शब्दः हिन्दिभाषायाम् अस्ति सम्स्कृते नास्ति। अतः पृष्टशीर्षिक परिवर्तनम् करणार्थम् मम निवेदनम् समुदायप्रति। नव पृष्टशीर्षिकानि अत्र लिखन्तु।
en:In my opinion(I searched various dictionaries), There is no word called as चौपालम् (which is used in the title of this page) in Sanskrit. There is a word known as चौपाल् in Hindi but I have not come across any such usage in Sanskrit. Hence the title of this page needs to be renamed. Please write your suggestions here. If you think there is indeed such a word in Sanskrit please point to me to the reference. Thanks. - रामप्रियः <sup>[[योजकसम्भाषणम्:Harshavs|सम्भाषणम्]]</sup> १६:१८, ८ जून् २०११ (UTC)
:I think उदञ्च would be fine. [[योजकः:Vibhijain|♛♚★Vaibhav Jain★♚♛]] १६:४९, ८ जून् २०११ (UTC)
::If the rationale behind naming the community page as Village pump is that village pump is place for the community discussions, then why not we name it as ग्रामस्य वटवृक्षतल(under villages banyan tree) would be apt. My reasoning is that in our villages, usual village community discussions (panchayats) happen under a prominent tree either a banyan or peepul tree. As this is a community page, it makes sense to name it thus. - रामप्रियः <sup>[[योजकसम्भाषणम्:Harshavs|सम्भाषणम्]]</sup> १७:१५, ८ जून् २०११ (UTC)
:::Well we have to do what is being one on other wikis. The most near language to Sanskrit is Hindi and they also use ''Village Pump''. I agree from you but we will need to discuss this with other wikipedians.
:::: I checked kannada wikipedia and they use what I have suggested. It means under peepul tree. - रामप्रियः <sup>[[योजकसम्भाषणम्:Harshavs|सम्भाषणम्]]</sup> १७:४२, ८ जून् २०११ (UTC)
:::::Yes, its meant to sound as a place where people gather to discuss. Kannada uses "Arali Katte". Note that the new name may not be related to villages or something. Any name having a relevant meaning could be suggested. '''[[User:MikeLynch|<span style="color:#000080">Rao</span><span style="color:#00BFFF">7</span>]] •[[User talk:MikeLynch|<sup><span style="color:green"><small>Talk</small></span></sup>]]''' १९:५८, ८ जून् २०११ (UTC)
:::::: I think विचारस्थल would be best, it will also reflect the extreme vocabulary of the Sanskrit language. [[योजकः:Vibhijain|♛♚★Vaibhav Jain★♚♛]] १०:५३, ९ जून् २०११ (UTC)
I think '''विचार मण्डपम्''' is also good. [[योजकः:Bhawani Gautam|भवानी गौतम]] १४:१३, ९ जून् २०११ (UTC)
: मम समर्थनम् I like it. - रामप्रियः <sup>[[योजकसम्भाषणम्:Harshavs|सम्भाषणम्]]</sup> १८:०३, ९ जून् २०११ (UTC)
::'''समर्थनम्'''. '''[[User:MikeLynch|<span style="color:#000080">Rao</span><span style="color:#00BFFF">7</span>]] •[[User talk:MikeLynch|<sup><span style="color:green"><small>Talk</small></span></sup>]]''' ०५:३१, १० जून् २०११ (UTC)
::::'''समर्थनम्'''[[योजकः:Vibhijain|♛♚★Vaibhav Jain★♚♛]] ०७:५३, १० जून् २०११ (UTC)
:{{done}}[[User:Vibhijain|♛♚★Vaibhav Jain★♚♛]] ([[User talk:Vibhijain|चर्चा]]) १२:५५, १८ जून् २०११ (UTC)
== Is there an interwiki bot operating currently in sa.wikipedia ?==
I wonder if there is any bot which adds interwiki from all languages if we add just one interwiki(say en). If not, we could use this bot http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/User:YurikBot - रामप्रियः <sup>[[योजकसम्भाषणम्:Harshavs|सम्भाषणम्]]</sup> १४:५५, १२ जून् २०११ (UTC)
:Well there are many interwiki bots. If this bot's operator is interested, he has to place a bot flag request on community portal. More interwiki bots, more easier is the surfing around wikipedia. [[योजकः:Vibhijain|♛♚★Vaibhav Jain★♚♛]] १५:०२, १२ जून् २०११ (UTC)
::(ec)Actually, there are multiple interwiki bots operating on sawiki. You can usually find them on recent changes [http://sa.wikipedia.org/w/index.php?title=%E0%A4%B5%E0%A4%BF%E0%A4%B6%E0%A5%87%E0%A4%B7:%E0%A4%A8%E0%A4%B5%E0%A5%80%E0%A4%A8%E0%A4%A4%E0%A4%AE_%E0%A4%AA%E0%A4%B0%E0%A4%BF%E0%A4%B5%E0%A4%B0%E0%A5%8D%E0%A4%A4%E0%A4%A8&hideminor=0&days=30&hidebots=&hideanons=1&hideliu=1&hidemyself=1 here]. But whether if it will add all of them if we add just one interwiki, I'll clarify that after asking the bot operators. '''[[User:MikeLynch|<span style="color:#000080">Rao</span><span style="color:#00BFFF">7</span>]] •[[User talk:MikeLynch|<sup><span style="color:green"><small>Talk</small></span></sup>]]''' १५:०३, १२ जून् २०११ (UTC)
::: Ok, I added english interwiki on article उडुपि lets see if Sanskrit interwiki is added to other wikis. I will check en,kn,hi. So what should be the reasonable time before I check other wikis ? - रामप्रियः <sup>[[योजकसम्भाषणम्:Harshavs|सम्भाषणम्]]</sup> १५:१७, १२ जून् २०११ (UTC)
::::Usually it takes place within minutes. '''[[User:MikeLynch|<span style="color:#000080">Rao</span><span style="color:#00BFFF">7</span>]] •[[User talk:MikeLynch|<sup><span style="color:green"><small>Talk</small></span></sup>]]''' १५:५९, १२ जून् २०११ (UTC)
:::: Ok, this is my observation. Articles updated in en or other wikis gets updated in sa if there is already a link. For example - If sa article Koppal has interwiki to en and vice versa, and there was an update to en article wherein fr interwiki for koppal was included, then sa article is updated by the bots with the fr interwiki. However if there is an update on sa, say I update Udupi article with adding en interwiki, bots do not read this update. Hence en is not updated with sa link, hence none of the links are updated in sa article. Ideally I would want to just add en link in sa articles and bots should go search en article for all interwikis and update the sa article and also other wikis with sa link for the article. Hope this is not confusing to you guys. If it is, let me know I will try to simplify. Anyhow, can we ask the bots to read sa article updates and update others accordingly ? - रामप्रियः <sup>[[योजकसम्भाषणम्:Harshavs|सम्भाषणम्]]</sup> १७:३२, १३ जून् २०११ (UTC)
:::::I've contacted one of the bot operators, pending a response. Till then, I think the easiest thing to do would be to add a sa interwiki in en. Or probably that won't work either. '''[[User:MikeLynch|<span style="color:#000080">Rao</span><span style="color:#00BFFF">7</span>]] •[[User talk:MikeLynch|<sup><span style="color:green"><small>Talk</small></span></sup>]]''' २०:३२, १३ जून् २०११ (UTC)
::::: Did you get a response from the bot operators ? - रामप्रियः <sup>[[योजकसम्भाषणम्:Harshavs|सम्भाषणम्]]</sup> ०८:१७, २३ जून् २०११ (UTC)
::::::I'm about to get a response, busy with an interwiki bot edit war; trying to get that fixed. '''[[User:MikeLynch|<span style="color:#000080">Rao</span><span style="color:#00BFFF">7</span>]] •[[User talk:MikeLynch|<sup><span style="color:green"><small>Talk</small></span></sup>]]''' १२:३२, २३ जून् २०११ (UTC)
:::::::Finally, some results. I added a sa interwiki in en for the page [[बर्मिङ्घम्]] some days ago. Yesterday, a bot added all the interwikis [https://secure.wikimedia.org/wikipedia/sa/w/index.php?title=%E0%A4%AC%E0%A4%B0%E0%A5%8D%E0%A4%AE%E0%A4%BF%E0%A4%99%E0%A5%8D%E0%A4%98%E0%A4%AE%E0%A5%8D&action=historysubmit&diff=119336&oldid=119138 here]. So, it works, but it takes some time (days). '''[[User:MikeLynch|<span style="color:#000080">Rao</span><span style="color:#00BFFF">7</span>]] •[[User talk:MikeLynch|<sup><span style="color:green"><small>Talk</small></span></sup>]]''' ०४:०९, २७ जून् २०११ (UTC)
==Typing tool for other Sanskrit Wikis==
Dear fellow editors, as you have probably checked out other Sanskrit Wikis, there is no typing tool integrated there, and there is no support for typing directly in Sanskrit there. I want to make a proposal to integrate a typing tool in '''all''' Sanskrit Wikis. I am very sure that this will '''tremendously''' help your editing experience on Sanskrit Wikis. The typing tool I am talking about is called '''Narayam'''. You can read about Narayam in [http://shijualex.wordpress.com/2011/02/23/narayam-a-new-mediawiki-extension/ this post] by [[User:Shijualex|Shijualex]]. I request you to kindly consider this proposal, as this will make typing directly in Sanskrit possible across '''all Sanskrit Wikis'''. '''[[User:MikeLynch|<span style="color:#000080">Rao</span><span style="color:#00BFFF">7</span>]] •[[User talk:MikeLynch|<sup><span style="color:green"><small>Talk</small></span></sup>]]''' १४:२२, १६ जून् २०११ (UTC)
===Support===
# We at samskrita bharati support rao's proposal as we are currently facing a lot of difficulties because of the transilteration tool issue. I completely appreciate the view and efforts behind creating a new tool but that would be time consuming and more importantly we are quite comfortable with the current tool. So, I strongly support the [proposal to incorporate the narayam tool for now... ASAP. [[User:Sumanakoundinya|Sumanakoundinya]] ([[User talk:Sumanakoundinya|चर्चा]]) १०:५९, १७ जून् २०११ (UTC)
# I Support Rao, please make all wikis editable in samskrit as early as possible. [[User:Chaitrasn|Chaitrasn]] ([[User talk:Chaitrasn|चर्चा]]) ११:०३, १७ जून् २०११ (UTC)
# It is really appreciable proposal regarding the NARAYAM of Rao.And we hope that,it will be very helpfull for the editors that helps us as soon as possible. [[User:Sudarshanchip|Sudarshanchip]] ([[User talk:Sudarshanchip|चर्चा]]) १२:५१, १७ जून् २०११ (UTC)
# I support it too as I have am comfortable with this tool and a new tool would have a bit of learning effort. - रामप्रियः <sup>[[योजकसम्भाषणम्:Harshavs|सम्भाषणम्]]</sup> १३:०३, १७ जून् २०११ (UTC)
# अधुना उपयुज्यमानं तन्त्रं समीचीनम् अस्ति | सुलभोपयोगि च वर्तते | अतः अस्य एव उपयोगः सर्वत्र भवतु इति मम अभिप्रायः |
[[User:Shubhabangalore|Shubhabangalore]] ([[User talk:Shubhabangalore|चर्चा]]) ०५:३१, १८ जून् २०११ (UTC)
===Oppose===
# {{cross}} I agree with your proposal, but the tool '''Narayam''' is very tough to use (for me). I and Mayur are trying for a better one, so please wait till then, and If we are passes in making it, I will inform you. [[User:Vibhijain|♛♚★Vaibhav Jain★♚♛]] ([[User talk:Vibhijain|चर्चा]]) १४:२८, १६ जून् २०११ (UTC)
::You are completely free to develop another one. But until then, what is the harm in including this? '''[[User:MikeLynch|<span style="color:#000080">Rao</span><span style="color:#00BFFF">7</span>]] •[[User talk:MikeLynch|<sup><span style="color:green"><small>Talk</small></span></sup>]]''' १४:३२, १६ जून् २०११ (UTC)
::I am deeply sorry to hear about your difficulty. Till then, many people trying to use other projects will be affected. When your tool comes around, then we can discuss and include it. '''[[User:MikeLynch|<span style="color:#000080">Rao</span><span style="color:#00BFFF">7</span>]] •[[User talk:MikeLynch|<sup><span style="color:green"><small>Talk</small></span></sup>]]''' १४:३५, १६ जून् २०११ (UTC)
:Well thats the best option, but if there is a support for this, then how will you add it? There is no admin there. [[User:Vibhijain|♛♚★Vaibhav Jain★♚♛]] ([[User talk:Vibhijain|चर्चा]]) १४:३८, १६ जून् २०११ (UTC)
::That will be taken care of, don't worry :) '''[[User:MikeLynch|<span style="color:#000080">Rao</span><span style="color:#00BFFF">7</span>]] •[[User talk:MikeLynch|<sup><span style="color:green"><small>Talk</small></span></sup>]]''' १४:४०, १६ जून् २०११ (UTC)
:The new transiliration tool is ready now on pi wiki. You may test it there. Remember some points using it as it is very different from Narayam:
* See at the top right of the edit box, there would be a box containing अ, click it to turn on or off the transiliration.
* Type the word in roman characters, an then press space for converting it to Devanagari. If there is a trouble in the conversion, press backspace before the word, and different options will come which are near to the current word. If you do not find your word, there is a problem in the input given. [[User:Vibhijain|♛♚★Vaibhav Jain★♚♛]] ([[User talk:Vibhijain|चर्चा]]) १४:४५, १६ जून् २०११ (UTC)
===Comments===
== Narayam ==
I and Mayur have a lot of problems using this tool. I purpose that both this transiliration tools should be removed from default, and users can add the script of the tool which they prefer to their personal script. After that, we can have a consensus to decide upon that can we have both the tools as default, as both this tools do not interfere with each others. [[User:Vibhijain|♛♚★Vaibhav Jain★♚♛]] ([[User talk:Vibhijain|चर्चा]]) १३:४१, १८ जून् २०११ (UTC)
===Support===
:{{tick}} I really had problems with Narayam, its a excellent tool but I am not so good in it. If anyone have problems regarding terms like personal scripts, admins can add the scripts for them. [[User:Vibhijain|♛♚★Vaibhav Jain★♚♛]] ([[User talk:Vibhijain|चर्चा]]) १३:४४, १८ जून् २०११ (UTC)
===Oppose===
# Interesting that you added only a Support tab. Anyway, Why disturb the existing setup? The use of your tool hasn't gained approval yet; so why do you want to remove the existing tool? You can make your tool optional, or you can create a test wiki for other users to first use it and get feedback. If your tool gets good feedback, and hence approval, then we can follow your proposal. '''[[User:MikeLynch|<span style="color:#000080">Rao</span><span style="color:#00BFFF">7</span>]] •[[User talk:MikeLynch|<sup><span style="color:green"><small>Talk</small></span></sup>]]''' १३:५१, १८ जून् २०११ (UTC)
: Really sorry for that। As if have stated above, I and some other users like Mayur have problems with the current tool, we can follow hi wiki, they have both tools as options on the Gadgets tab, and no one as default. Again sorry for that mistake, really didn't remembered that. :) [[User:Vibhijain|♛♚★Vaibhav Jain★♚♛]] ([[User talk:Vibhijain|चर्चा]]) १३:५७, १८ जून् २०११ (UTC)
::Till you gain approval, please disable the tool. Make it an optional gadget if you wish. '''[[User:MikeLynch|<span style="color:#000080">Rao</span><span style="color:#00BFFF">7</span>]] •[[User talk:MikeLynch|<sup><span style="color:green"><small>Talk</small></span></sup>]]''' १४:०१, १८ जून् २०११ (UTC)
===Comments===
Is the typing tool changed? I am not able to transliterate into Sanskrit properly. - रामप्रियः <sup>[[योजकसम्भाषणम्:Harshavs|सम्भाषणम्]]</sup> २१:१८, २८ जून् २०११ (UTC)
:Not changed, but a similar version was integrated. Make sure you select the "Sanskrit Transliteration" option and check the "To toggle IM" button on the top right corner of your page. When you check that box, the typing field will turn kinda blue-ish. '''[[User:MikeLynch|<span style="color:#000080">Rao</span><span style="color:#00BFFF">7</span>]] •[[User talk:MikeLynch|<sup><span style="color:green"><small>Talk</small></span></sup>]]''' ०७:३७, २९ जून् २०११ (UTC)
:: Is there a help page for the typing tool, I am finding it hard to type even a single word. - रामप्रियः <sup>[[योजकसम्भाषणम्:Harshavs|सम्भाषणम्]]</sup> २०:०८, १५ जूलय् २०११ (UTC)
:::Hmm, can you leave a note to [[User:Shijualex|Shijualex]] regarding this; you could also [[Special:Emailuser/Shijualex|email him]]. '''[[User:MikeLynch|<span style="color:#000080">Rao</span><span style="color:#00BFFF">7</span>]] •[[User talk:MikeLynch|<sup><span style="color:green"><small>Talk</small></span></sup>]]''' ०३:१६, १६ जूलय् २०११ (UTC)
:::Also, make sure you select "Sanskrit Transliteration" and not "Sanskrit InScript". Also, make sure that in your [[विशेष:इष्टतमानि#preftab-8|My preferences]] section, the <gadget-Microsoft_Transliteration_Tool> is unselected. '''[[User:MikeLynch|<span style="color:#000080">Rao</span><span style="color:#00BFFF">7</span>]] •[[User talk:MikeLynch|<sup><span style="color:green"><small>Talk</small></span></sup>]]''' ०३:२२, १६ जूलय् २०११ (UTC)
:Dear Mr. रामप्रियः, I came to know about this problem right now after your recent comment. I didn't know because I use standard inscript keyboard provided by Operating System. Anyway, your problem is real. I tried to use it to test it a bit, but surprisingly I was unable to even start with, because its keymap is not based on intuition. Also its ऎ ऒ (and corresponding matraas) are even liguistically wrong characters which should have been ऐ and ओ. Sorry I don't have time to do rigorous test, nor do I have time to search out what had happened to previous tool. For one such tool I did rigorous testing which was provided by सुमित सिन्हा on hi.wiki, and perhaps corrected tool was deployed also. I don't know as a consequence of what, this new tool is deployed without any testing. I know one thing that many of our editors are entering these wrong characters in their otherwise good edits, because of this tool. Please try to restore previous tool so that our energy for correcting these characters at a later date is saved. -[[User:Hemant wikikosh|Hemant wikikosh]] ([[User talk:Hemant wikikosh|चर्चा]]) ०४:४२, १६ जूलय् २०११ (UTC)
::Thanks for sharing your concerns; I will take this matter up on a priority basis. '''[[User:MikeLynch|<span style="color:#000080">Rao</span><span style="color:#00BFFF">7</span>]] •[[User talk:MikeLynch|<sup><span style="color:green"><small>Talk</small></span></sup>]]''' ०९:२८, १६ जूलय् २०११ (UTC)<br/>
Thank u Mr. Mike. -[[User:Hemant wikikosh|Hemant wikikosh]] ([[User talk:Hemant wikikosh|चर्चा]]) १२:४६, १६ जूलय् २०११ (UTC)
:::Hi Nice thing about sanskrit wikipedia transiliteration tool ,you have got better level of technical support coming up and that to from wikipedians from across India.We from mr wiki keenly watching this development. But please be more elaborate in noting down why certain change is being done and what is good what is area of improvement in in particular system so it is easy for next generation wikipedians to do further improvement. Can some one give me all relevant links of source of present tool/extension and will prefer to have links to previously implemented tools (if possible with little explanation about plus and minus points) It is needed because we want to study each of them thoroughly for Marathi WIkipedia sake Thanks for your co-operation and contribution[[User:Mahitgar|Mahitgar]] ([[User talk:Mahitgar|चर्चा]]) १२:३९, १० ओगस्ट् २०११ (UTC)
::::Hi Mahitgar, thanks for your comments. I would love to give out more details, but I'm not really the technical type. I think its best you contact [[User:Shijualex|Shijualex]] regarding this, as he helped a lot in setting up the transliteration extension (Narayam). '''[[User:MikeLynch|<span style="color:#000080">Rao</span><span style="color:#00BFFF">7</span>]] •[[User talk:MikeLynch|<sup><span style="color:green"><small>Talk</small></span></sup>]]''' २०:३०, ११ ओगस्ट् २०११ (UTC)
== विकिसूक्तयः ==
I request each user to start editing at the test wiki of [[incubator:Wq/sa|Sanskrit Wikiquote]]. There are currently 11 pages and 30 including redirects and templates. This project has been verified as eligible by the language committee. And also please support this project and add your name in the editing community [[m:Requests for new languages/Wikiquote Sanskrit|here]] if you have didn't. Thanks. [[User:Vibhijain|♛♚★Vaibhav Jain★♚♛]] ([[User talk:Vibhijain|चर्चा]]) १२:०४, २६ जून् २०११ (UTC)
== Enable Some User Groups ==
I give a proposal to add some new user groups to sa wiki like
#roll backers
#reviewers
#abuse filterers
#Eliminator(who can delete and undelete any page)
All the rights are already with admins but they should be also to active non-admins. That would help Sanskrit Wikipedia to grow faster. (Give your vote if you agree that this feature should be installed to meet the requirements of sanskrit wikipedia then put {{tick}} otherwise {{cross}} for opposing )<br/>
#{{tick}} '''[[User:Vibhijain|<span style="color:#B57EDC">♛♚★Vaibhav Jain★♚♛</span>]] [[User talk:Vibhijain|<sup><span style="color:red"><small>Talk</small></span></sup>]]''' १३:१८, ४ जूलय् २०११ (UTC)
#{{cross}}, As there are very less active user on sa wiki, among 53 active user, 45 are global bots.So only 8 users remains.In such condition its is not beneficial.I think we should develop the community first, as our active users increases we can enable this groups.Mediawiki developers also do such changes where there is an Significant active community--[[User:Mayur|Mayur]] ([[User talk:Mayur|चर्चा]]) १३:५०, ४ जूलय् २०११ (UTC)
#{{cross}}.
::* Rollback feature is already there in the Twinkle package
::* By reviewer, if you mean enabling something like the Recent changes patrol, it is completely useless for Sa wiki. Please expand on this point.
::* We hardly get any vandalism. Try and define some abusefilters, and then we can decide whether it will really be useful.
::* Again, it boils down to the vandalism. The last vandal I reverted was "never". Blatant vandalism is a rarity here, so Eliminator would not serve any real purpose.
Basically, all these pertain to blatant vandalism, something which we get once in a blue moon. '''[[User:MikeLynch|<span style="color:#000080">Rao</span><span style="color:#00BFFF">7</span>]] •[[User talk:MikeLynch|<sup><span style="color:green"><small>Talk</small></span></sup>]]''' १३:५८, ४ जूलय् २०११ (UTC)
:::All this rights are for those purposes for which Adminship can't be granted. I also agree that rollback and reviewer will not help us. But if we build a good abuse filter like hi wiki, it would be really useful. As of eliminator rights, there are really some nonsense pages here, some of them are fit for Wikisource, and some for nothing. This will really help us. '''[[User:Vibhijain|<span style="color:#B57EDC">♛♚★Vaibhav Jain★♚♛</span>]] [[User talk:Vibhijain|<sup><span style="color:red"><small>Talk</small></span></sup>]]''' १४:१६, ४ जूलय् २०११ (UTC)
::::How many Pages are created in sa wiki daily, I really seek such vandalized pages to delete them but very less vandalism occur in sa wiki, Use of abuse filter is very risky for sa wiki before developing Community in sa wiki, All such stuff was introduced in hi wiki due to Excess vandalism.In case of sa wiki hardly we face any vandalism as Mike said.Let our community develop.We have already 8 active user, 4 are admins among them so there is no need of such huge implementation at this intial developing stage of sa wiki.--[[User:Mayur|Mayur]] ([[User talk:Mayur|चर्चा]]) १४:३१, ४ जूलय् २०११ (UTC)
::{{cross}} अहं राववर्यस्य मयूरवर्यस्य च इव मतं धारयामि। अत्र एतावन् महाव्यूहरचनायाः आवश्यकता न दृश्यते। परन्तु विभिजैनमहोदयः अपि साधुवादार्हः अस्ति येन एतावती योजनापरा दृष्टिः धारिता अस्ति। परन्तु समयेन सह वयं आवश्यकताऽनुसारेण एव नवान् अधिकारान् प्रबन्धकेतर जनान् दातुं प्रयतिष्यामः। -[[User:Hemant wikikosh|Hemant wikikosh]] ([[User talk:Hemant wikikosh|चर्चा]]) १८:०३, ४ जूलय् २०११ (UTC)
::{{tick}}एतादृशमहाव्यूहरचनायाः आवश्यकता निश्चयेन वर्तते इति मम दृढः अभिप्रायः यतः संस्कृत-विकिपीडिया-कार्यं महता प्रमाणेन वर्धनीयम् इति प्रयासः प्रचलन् अस्ति । अचिरात् सर्वे तत् द्रष्टुं शक्नुयुः एव । अतः अत्रत्या व्यवस्था यावत् सुपरिष्कृता भवेत् तावत् समीचीनमेव ।[[User:Shubhabangalore|Shubha]] ([[User talk:Shubhabangalore|चर्चा]]) १३:२०, ८ जूलय् २०११ (UTC)
== प्रबन्धकत्वार्थं निवेदनम् Hemant_wikikosh इत्यनेन ==
प्रियाणि मित्राणि, <br/>
मया प्रबन्धकत्वार्थं निवेदितमस्ति। कृपया स्वकीयं मतम् [[विकिपीडियासंभाषणं:प्रबंधक| अत्र]] प्रदर्शयतु।<br/>
Dear freinds, <br/>
I have applied for adminship. Please express your opinion [[विकिपीडियासंभाषणं:प्रबंधक |here]] -[[User:Hemant wikikosh|Hemant wikikosh]] ([[User talk:Hemant wikikosh|चर्चा]]) ०५:५३, ८ जूलय् २०११ (UTC)
== Interface Translator ==
I purpose that we should create a new user group known as ''Interface Translator'', so we can get the interface translated. The criterea for administrator is high, and thats why some users are not able to help. This is let them translate the interface messages. '''[[User:Vibhijain|<span style="color:#B57EDC">♛♚★Vaibhav Jain★♚♛</span>]] [[User talk:Vibhijain|<sup><span style="color:red"><small>Talk</small></span></sup>]]''' १४:११, ९ जूलय् २०११ (UTC)
=== Support ===
* '''[[User:Vibhijain|<span style="color:#B57EDC">♛♚★Vaibhav Jain★♚♛</span>]] [[User talk:Vibhijain|<sup><span style="color:red"><small>Talk</small></span></sup>]]''' १४:११, ९ जूलय् २०११ (UTC)
=== Oppose ===
{{cross}} Strongly oppose! Since this is very opportunistic move. Just to keep his own hegemony over admin rights. This is not my quick inference, but is clear from his prior background (Sorry friends for using such language for him, but this person left no option). <br/>
Dear Mr. Vaibhav,<br/>
I am just asking whether that "higher criteria" for adminship includes "any" knowledge of Sanskrit OR tell frankly if that "higher criteria" is "the administrator should be able to make a mess of the language", as is evident from your edits. If I pick random edits from your contributions, I can find many silly mistakes and blunders in each one. I usually don't take such type of gesture for other's mistakes. May be, some of our other admins also are not very good at Sanskrit, but I can't dare criticize them, '''in fact I respect them''', because of their good intentions, high values, humane nature and the spirit of service for the wikipedia. My dear friend please mend your attitude. This is not first time, but only a sequel of misbehavior you have been already doing, as pointed out by रामप्रियः while commenting upon ur adminship candidature. If you can understand my real tone, I have no malice for you. Thanks. -[[User:Hemant wikikosh|Hemant wikikosh]] ([[User talk:Hemant wikikosh|चर्चा]]) १७:१६, ९ जूलय् २०११ (UTC)
:I am completely surprised. I placed this request after my talks with Mike. I request the crat to please take proper action on this. Maybe this is a confusion or a personal attack. '''[[User:Vibhijain|<span style="color:#B57EDC">♛♚★Vaibhav Jain★♚♛</span>]] [[User talk:Vibhijain|<sup><span style="color:red"><small>Talk</small></span></sup>]]''' १७:३२, ९ जूलय् २०११ (UTC)
::Friend, see Bhawnani's request, i opposed the first, but supported the second because he needed to participate in discussion. Same i did on your request. I am no one to keep my hegemony over admin rights, we have a crat, an he knows better than us, an he is the most senior. As of Harshavs, his and my relations had been always good. In fact he pointed my mistakes, but they were not intential. The words used by you are not right, and I request you to please refrain using such comments against other users. You are most welcome to comment on edits, but not on editors. '''[[User:Vibhijain|<span style="color:#B57EDC">♛♚★Vaibhav Jain★♚♛</span>]] [[User talk:Vibhijain|<sup><span style="color:red"><small>Talk</small></span></sup>]]''' १८:०४, ९ जूलय् २०११ (UTC)
:::Cool down guys.
:::@Vaibhav: Well, this is not a personal attack in a strict sense; more a question of brashness. I mean, come on, you've had harsher comments against you in the RfC! Cool down mate. Maybe you can introspect, and take it with a pinch of salt.
:::@Hemant: I deeply respect your knowledge of the language. Regarding your comments on Vaibhav Jain, I really cannot make any statement as such; some questions on Vaibhav's behaviour have been raised before, and are being raised right now. Many Indian editors do share your views on this matter. A discussion was opened recently [[:meta:Requests_for_comment/Vibhijain_and_Mayur|here]] regarding his behaviour. It would be improper for me (as a bureaucrat here) to comment on his behaviour. I have left a politely worded note on the RfC.
:::Regarding this particular issue of interface translation, it is true that many system messages are untranslated, as you can see. I believe that this is one of the many possible solutions to the issue; others include translatewiki.net . You are welcome to suggest more options! Of course, you need no explanation, you have done a lot of translation already! :)
:::Best regards, '''[[User:MikeLynch|<span style="color:#000080">Rao</span><span style="color:#00BFFF">7</span>]] •[[User talk:MikeLynch|<sup><span style="color:green"><small>Talk</small></span></sup>]]''' १५:३०, १० जूलय् २०११ (UTC)
== Please add plus sign ==
As this is a large-sized page, it would be better to add a '+' tab on the top of it, so that editors can enter text without having to open all the bytes in edit-box. This will save time and bandwidth, and will reduce the possibility of messing up of whole the page. -[[User:Hemant wikikosh|Hemant wikikosh]] ([[User talk:Hemant wikikosh|चर्चा]]) ११:२६, १९ जूलय् २०११ (UTC)
:{{done}}--[[User:Vibhijain|<span style="color:#B57EDC">♛♚★Vaibhav Jain★♚♛</span>]] [[User talk:Vibhijain|<sup><span style="color:red"><small>Talk</small></span></sup>]] [[विशेष:विपत्रयोजक/Vibhijain|<sup><span style="color:blue"><small>Email</small></span></sup>]] ११:५८, १९ जूलय् २०११ (UTC)
== Please comment ==
Members are requested to please comment on this since this issue is important one, being related to the name of the project: [http://sa.wikipedia.org/wiki/%E0%A4%B5%E0%A4%BF%E0%A4%95%E0%A4%BF%E0%A4%AA%E0%A5%80%E0%A4%A1%E0%A4%BF%E0%A4%AF%E0%A4%BE:%E0%A4%B5%E0%A4%BF%E0%A4%9A%E0%A4%BE%E0%A4%B0%E0%A4%AE%E0%A4%A3%E0%A5%8D%E0%A4%A1%E0%A4%AA%E0%A4%AE%E0%A5%8D#Main_page विकिपीडिया अथवा विकिपीडिय].<br/>
We should decide on this and go ahead accordingly. Thanks. -[[User:Hemant wikikosh|Hemant wikikosh]] ([[User talk:Hemant wikikosh|चर्चा]]) ०९:४१, २० जूलय् २०११ (UTC)
:I think that is resolved. There is a general consensus for विकिपीडिय. Regards, [[User:Vibhijain|<span style="color:#B57EDC">♛♚★Vaibhav Jain★♚♛</span>]] [[User talk:Vibhijain|<sup><span style="color:red"><small>Talk</small></span></sup>]] [[विशेष:विपत्रयोजक/Vibhijain|<sup><span style="color:blue"><small>Email</small></span></sup>]] १०:२०, २० जूलय् २०११ (UTC)
: '''विकिपीडिया''' एव व्यवहारयोग्यम् इति भाति । [[User:Shubhabangalore|Shubha]] ([[User talk:Shubhabangalore|चर्चा]]) १४:१९, २० जूलय् २०११ (UTC)
: महोदये, अपि च स्वमतं प्रकाशयतु यद् भवती तत्पदं स्त्रीलिङ्गे सुष्ठु मन्यते उत वा पुल्लिङ्गे? (मम तु मतं उपर्येव वर्तते)। -[[User:Hemant wikikosh|Hemant wikikosh]] ([[User talk:Hemant wikikosh|चर्चा]]) १४:४६, २० जूलय् २०११ (UTC)
: स्त्रीलिङ्गसदृशम् इति वक्तुं शक्नोमि । पुंलिङ्गवत् तु न । व्यवहारानुकूलाय आकारान्तरूपम् अङ्गीकुर्मः चेत् वरमिति मन्ये । विदुषाम् अङ्गीकारस्य प्राप्तिः तु संशयास्पदमेव । -[[User:Shubhabangalore|Shubha]] ([[User talk:Shubhabangalore|चर्चा]]) ११:२५, २१ जूलय् २०११ (UTC)
Pedia means 'knowledge' संस्कृतॆ विद्या इति। पीडिया can thus be treated as स्त्रीलिङ्ग and also rhyme with विद्या :) I vote for विकिपीडिया[[User:Samskritasrini|Samskritasrini]] ([[User talk:Samskritasrini|चर्चा]]) ०८:५६, २२ जूलय् २०११ (UTC)
विदुषाम् अभिप्रायस्य अपेक्षया अस्माकं वाचकानां च उपयॊगित्वं द्रष्टव्यम् इति मम मतम् । संस्कृतविद्वांसः आङ्ग्लपदस्य यॊजनामॆव न अङ्गीकुर्वन्ति । किन्तु विभक्तियॊजनायाः विषयॆ विकिपीडिया एव वरम् । अतः विकिपीडिया इत्यॆव भवेत् ।[[User:SumanaKoundinya|SumanaKoundinya]] ([[User talk:SumanaKoundinya|चर्चा]]) ०९:०२, २२ जूलय् २०११ (UTC)
You're right Mr. Koudinya, and moreover विकिपीडिया is a "brand name" of our project, besides being a proper noun. Although in Sanskrit, many times we have to compromise with the original word in favor of sanskitization, but here since we are very comfortable with this word, we shouldn't go for विकिपीडिय type of deviations. -[[User:Hemant wikikosh|Hemant wikikosh]] ([[User talk:Hemant wikikosh|चर्चा]]) ०९:३२, २२ जूलय् २०११ (UTC)
:I will stand for विकिपीडिय still as its easier to use this word. However the points given by some users says it should be विकिपीडिया, an i agree with them, so I will prefer more users commenting. [[User:Vibhijain|<span style="color:#B57EDC">♛♚★Vaibhav Jain★♚♛</span>]] [[User talk:Vibhijain|<sup><span style="color:red"><small>Talk</small></span></sup>]] [[विशेष:विपत्रयोजक/Vibhijain|<sup><span style="color:blue"><small>Email</small></span></sup>]] १०:०४, २२ जूलय् २०११ (UTC)
::After so much consensus achieved on (1) विकिपीडिया (2) स्त्रीलिङ्ग usage of the word विकिपीडिया, I request concerned administrator(s)/bureaucrat to kindly do the needful to reestablish this name. I think the previous logo can be restored to re-change the name, and other places can be edited to reflect the change. Respected editors may refer to forms of word विकिपीडिया given above, at [http://sa.wikipedia.org/wiki/%E0%A4%B5%E0%A4%BF%E0%A4%95%E0%A4%BF%E0%A4%AA%E0%A5%80%E0%A4%A1%E0%A4%BF%E0%A4%AF%E0%A4%BE:%E0%A4%B5%E0%A4%BF%E0%A4%9A%E0%A4%BE%E0%A4%B0%E0%A4%AE%E0%A4%A3%E0%A5%8D%E0%A4%A1%E0%A4%AA%E0%A4%AE%E0%A5%8D#Main_page विकिपीडिया अथवा विकिपीडिय], if they have any problem. Thanks. -[[User:Hemant wikikosh|Hemant wikikosh]] ([[User talk:Hemant wikikosh|चर्चा]]) १०:३४, २२ जूलय् २०११ (UTC)
*{{done}}--Seeing that there is a consensus to do so, i am changing विकिपीडिय to विकिपीडिया, but it may take time for the change of logo. [[User:Vibhijain|<span style="color:#B57EDC">♛♚★Vaibhav Jain★♚♛</span>]] [[User talk:Vibhijain|<sup><span style="color:red"><small>Talk</small></span></sup>]] [[विशेष:विपत्रयोजक/Vibhijain|<sup><span style="color:blue"><small>Email</small></span></sup>]] १२:५५, २२ जूलय् २०११ (UTC)
== Please correct the text of following template ==
Following template is visible on each user's talk-page, which has some serious grammatical errors, I am pointing out them please correct (let's take my username as parameter) (each line is followed by corrected version and then explaination of correction):<br/><br/>
एष यॊजक Hemant wikikoshस्य सम्भाषण-पृष्ठं, भवान् अत्र यॊजकाय सन्देशानि दत्तुं शक्नॊति<br/>
एतत् योजकस्य Hemant wikikosh इत्येतस्य सम्भाषण-पृष्ठम्। भवान् अत्र योजकार्थं सन्देशान् दातुं शक्नोति<br/>
पुरातन पाठस्य अधोतले नूतना पाठानि स्थाप्यताम्। नूतन शीर्षकं आरभ्यतु।<br/>
पूर्वतनस्य पाठस्य अधस्तात् नूतनः पाठः स्थाप्यताम्। नूतनं शीर्षकम् आरभताम्। : अधोतले means अधः and तले are wrongly joined. नूतना पाठानि means पाठ has ambiguous gender. <br/>
हस्ताक्षर तथा मिति प्रदर्शनार्थॆ चत्वारो टिल्ड (<nowiki>~~~~</nowiki>) टंकणं करोतु।<br/>
हस्ताक्षरान् तथा च दिनाङ्कं प्रदर्शयितुं चतुर्वारं टिल्ड् (<nowiki>~~~~</nowiki>) इत्येतेषां टङ्कणं करोतु। :हस्ताक्षर is not inflected at all in above text. celebrated error of थॆ instead of थे also present. <br/>
भवान् विकिपीडिया स्थले नवीन? स्वागतम् ! <br/>
किं भवान् विकिपीडियायां नवीनोऽसि? स्वागतमत्र ! :original text means- "O newcomer! Are you on wikipedia site?" while we want to say- "Are you newcomer on wikipedia site."<br/>
सभ्यं भवतु <br/>
सभ्यो भवतु। :Rest are self-explanatory. Also I've used पूर्णविराम punctuation to mark the completeness of sentences.<br/>
पूर्वाग्रहं नैव गृह्यताम्<br/>
पूर्वाग्रहं नैव गृह्यताम्।<br/>
व्यक्तिगत-आक्षेप नैव सृज्यताम्<br/>
व्यक्तिगतान् आक्षेपान् नैव सृज्यताम्।<br/>
नवागन्तुकानां सदा सुस्वागतं करोतु<br/>
नवागन्तुकानां सदा सुस्वागतं करोतु। <br/>
Administrator(s) are requested to kindly correct it as soon as possible. Thanks and regards. -[[User:Hemant wikikosh|Hemant wikikosh]] ([[User talk:Hemant wikikosh|चर्चा]]) ०५:४८, २४ जूलय् २०११ (UTC)
:I actually noticed this a couple of days ago. Thanks for pointing it out, will correct. '''[[User:MikeLynch|<span style="color:#000080">Rao</span><span style="color:#00BFFF">7</span>]] •[[User talk:MikeLynch|<sup><span style="color:green"><small>Talk</small></span></sup>]]''' ०६:३२, २४ जूलय् २०११ (UTC)
:{{done}} Let me know if it is proper. Thanks '''[[User:MikeLynch|<span style="color:#000080">Rao</span><span style="color:#00BFFF">7</span>]] •[[User talk:MikeLynch|<sup><span style="color:green"><small>Talk</small></span></sup>]]''' ०६:५६, २४ जूलय् २०११ (UTC)
Yeah, it's nice, except for one mistake on my account- it should've been "किं भवान् विकिपीडियायां नवीनोऽस्ति?" rather than "नवीनोऽसि". धन्यवादः स्वरूपवर्य। -[[User:Hemant wikikosh|Hemant wikikosh]] ([[User talk:Hemant wikikosh|चर्चा]]) १०:५४, २४ जूलय् २०११ (UTC)
:{{done}}. '''[[User:MikeLynch|<span style="color:#000080">Rao</span><span style="color:#00BFFF">7</span>]] •[[User talk:MikeLynch|<sup><span style="color:green"><small>Talk</small></span></sup>]]''' १७:५७, २४ जूलय् २०११ (UTC)
यत् परिवर्तनम् आनीतं तत् बहु समीचीनमेव । धन्यवादाः । अहं द्वित्रान् अंशान् सूचयितुम् इच्छामि । कृपया विचिन्त्य अङ्गीक्रियताम् ।
::Hemant: धन्यवादः शुभामहोदये स्वमतप्रदर्शनार्थम्। एतद्विषये मम विचाराः अधस्तात् सन्ति तत्तत्पंक्तितले -
:१ - भवान् अत्र योजकार्थं सन्देशान् दातुं शक्नोति - (प्रथमवाक्यम्) - अन्ते '''।''' (पूर्णविरामः) भवतु ।
:::Hemant: Yes, full stop should be there, which I left out in hurry.
:२ - टङ्कणं करोतु। - (तृतीयवाक्ये) - टङ्क'''नं''' इति भवतु । (अङ्कनम्, टङ्कनम्, उट्टङ्कनम् .... इत्यादिषु सर्वत्र '''न'''कारः अस्ति ।)
:::Hemant: Actually, टङ्कणं and टंकनं both are correct, kindly refer [[http://www.archive.org/stream/practicalsanskri00apteuoft#page/460/mode/2up|this page of apte's dictionary]].
:३ - पूर्वाग्रहं नैव गृह्यताम्। - (षष्ठवाक्ये) - '''पूर्वाग्रहः नैव गृह्यताम्।''' (गृह्यताम् इति कर्मणिरूपम् । अतः पूर्वाग्रहः इति प्रथमा विभक्तिः ।)
:::Hemant: This and the next error came to my notice just after posting previous message, and I thought I should wait before next post. No doubt there should be passive voice so I concur with you in this respect.
:४ - व्यक्तिगतान् आक्षेपान् नैव सृज्यताम्। - (सप्तमठवाक्ये) - '''व्यक्तिगताः आक्षेपाः नैव सृज्यन्ताम्।''' (सृज्यते इति तु कर्मणिरूपम् । अतः आक्षेपान् इति द्वितीया न भवति । अस्य प्रथमा विभक्तिः भवति ।)
:::Hemant: (As above).
:५ - सुस्वागतं करोतु। - (अष्टमवाक्ये) - '''स्वागतं करोतु।''' इति पर्याप्तम् इति मन्ये। (सु आगतं - स्वागतम् इति । तस्य पुरत: पुनः सु इति न अपेक्षितम् इति अहं चिन्तयामि ।) [[User:Shubhabangalore|Shubha]] ([[User talk:Shubhabangalore|चर्चा]]) ०६:१८, २६ जूलय् २०११ (UTC)
:::Hemant: I think both are correct, सुस्वागतम् gives more impetus to the act of स्वागतम्.
:::Thank you, Shubha Mahodaya, for your valuable suggestions. I request Mr. स्वरूप to kindly incorporate the corrections OR we may wait for some time (as you find convenient). Thanks. -[[User:Hemant wikikosh|Hemant wikikosh]] ([[User talk:Hemant wikikosh|चर्चा]]) १०:०२, २६ जूलय् २०११ (UTC)
== Please correct सुभाषितम् ==
I tried to restore सुभाषितम् to a stable state, which is reverted by श्री वैभव जैन. I don't mind it. But this list of Subhashits has many inconsistencies because of which I had to change to previous Subhashits. It is showing that it's source/origin is Rigveda, which is not so. It can also be verified on [[:en:Suprabhatam]] that "The Veṅkaṭeśasuprabhātam was composed around 1430 A.D. by Prativādibhayaṅkara Śrī Anantācārya (also known as Annangaracharyar, and P B Annan), the Rāmānujācārya of Kanchipuram." So at least in Shlokas related to सुप्रभातम् this correction should've been there. This is my point; rest is upto ur wish. Thanks and Regards.-[[User:Hemant wikikosh|Hemant wikikosh]] ([[User talk:Hemant wikikosh|चर्चा]]) ११:१७, २४ जूलय् २०११ (UTC)
:I reverted it because this type of changes should be first discussed with the community and this quote was aligned to the left making the formatting not so good. If the community wants, we can choose 31 good quotes for this template. [[User:Vibhijain|<span style="color:#B57EDC">♛♚★Vaibhav Jain★♚♛</span>]] [[User talk:Vibhijain|<sup><span style="color:red"><small>Talk</small></span></sup>]] [[विशेष:विपत्रयोजक/Vibhijain|<sup><span style="color:blue"><small>Email</small></span></sup>]] ११:४४, २४ जूलय् २०११ (UTC)
::Dear Vaibhav, you didn't understand my point. I am not asking why u reverted it. My point is that there is the said mistake among others, and it should be corrected if u want the same version of Subhashits there. Thanks. -[[User:Hemant wikikosh|Hemant wikikosh]] ([[User talk:Hemant wikikosh|चर्चा]]) १६:४३, २४ जूलय् २०११ (UTC)
:::I think that is a important issue, best way is to create a page for it, and than we can choose a quote for each day. [[User:Vibhijain|<span style="color:#B57EDC">♛♚★Vaibhav Jain★♚♛</span>]] [[User talk:Vibhijain|<sup><span style="color:red"><small>Talk</small></span></sup>]] [[विशेष:विपत्रयोजक/Vibhijain|<sup><span style="color:blue"><small>Email</small></span></sup>]] १०:३७, २५ जूलय् २०११ (UTC)
== एकः न तु कश्चित् ==
I want to draw attention of our capable editors to the point that some of us are using कश्चन or कश्चित् in place of एकः, in the opening sentence of articles, which is wrong. First I'll show such usages- <br/>
स्थम्भकरिः धान्यविशेषः कश्चन अस्ति ।<br/>
कैंटोनीनाम काचित् भाषा अस्ति।<br/>
ओरिस्साराज्यॆ स्थितं किञ्चन मण्डलम् ।<br/>
Now fact is that एकः is an article while कश्चन कश्चित् are existential determiners; certainly their roles are different. एकः can be used as an indefinite article whose role is:
{{cquote|An indefinite article indicates that its noun is not a particular one (or ones) identifiable to the listener. '''*It may be something that the speaker is mentioning for the first time*''', or its precise identity may be irrelevant or hypothetical, or the speaker may be making a general statement about any such thing. }}-from en.wikipedia
Now this definition (coincidentally) holds for Sanskrit also. Particularly we are using the '''highlighted part''' above as the role of एकः. Now existential article कश्चन= (can be called as)anysoever कश्चित् जनः= some person. So if we say '''कैंटोनी'''नाम काचित् भाषा अस्ति। this is though a valid sentence, but not for wikipedia article, its (काचित्) tone is '''uncertainity''', i.e. cantonese is '''some''' language (We certainly never see such usage on en.wiki where ''''a language'''' would be found). We can use such statements in casual talking but not in an trustable informative article, where we should use कैंटोनी नाम एका भाषाऽस्ति।, so that reader be convinced that the writer (ie Wikipedia) knows with surity. So I request our editors to please use एकः,एका,एकम् and their forms in the said context rather than कश्चित् or कश्चन. If our respected editors have any doubt/comment in this regard, please express. Thanks. -[[User:Hemant wikikosh|Hemant wikikosh]] ([[User talk:Hemant wikikosh|चर्चा]]) ०७:०१, २७ जूलय् २०११ (UTC)
:उत्तमः विषयः उत्थापितः । धन्यवादः । विचिन्त्य सोदाहरणं लेखिष्यामि । [[User:Shubhabangalore|Shubha]] ([[User talk:Shubhabangalore|चर्चा]]) ०५:१७, २९ जूलय् २०११ (UTC)
अस्मिन् विषये प्राज्ञैः सह मया चर्चा कृता । तैः दत्तम् उत्तरम् अधः लिखन्ती अस्मि ।
As I understand चित् and चन are particles added to the forms of किम् शब्द and the forms thus got are called निपाताः in Samskrit. They are used in place of articles 'the' and 'a' of English language. The word एका is a cardinal (संख्यावाचक) primarily and it denotes the number 'one'. However, it has other senses like 'alone', 'same', 'supreme', 'peerless', 'only'. It is also used in place of the articles 'a' and 'an' of English. For eg., "स्त्रीसंस्थानमेकं ज्योतिः आराद् एनाम् उत्क्षिप्य अप्सरास्तीर्थं जगाम" - शाकुन्तलम् 5-30. It is certainly not a substitute for the articles of English. But, more commonly the forms with चित् and चन are used in place of articles of English. Let us take the examples quoted here. स्थम्भकरी एकः/कश्चन धान्यविशेषः Here the speaker wants to say that there is a kind of grain called स्थम्भकरी. The listener has no knowledge of what the grain is like. He is hearing the name for the first time. He is being told that the name refers to a kind of grain. The singular usage of the two words convey the एकत्व संख्या. Hence there is no need for the word एका there. Nor is there any need for the word काचन because, the speaker knows what he is referring to. For the listener the word धान्यविशेषः would suffice to convey that it is a kind of grain. So, for better clarity the speaker may add नाम instead of एकः or कश्चन. In which case the sentence would be स्थम्भकरी नाम धान्यविशेषः (अस्ति) The sentences कैंटोनीनाम काचित् भाषा अस्ति and ओरिस्साराज्यॆ स्थितं किञ्चन मण्डलम् do convey the intended sense and are grammatically also correct. In both the sentences the singular number of the subject is conveyed by the एकवचनम् itself. By using the word एका in place of काचित् and किञ्चन the speaker may be suggesting that there is no other language but this and no other district but this, which is not the intended meaning. So, it is more appropriate to use the words काचित्, किञ्चन in place of indefinite articles than eka. As regards the view that the definition of an 'article' of English holds good for Samskrit also, we would like to point out that the two languages are so totally different and their grammar very unlike each other. While translating sentences from one language to another we need to safeguard the dignity and style of the language. The parts of speech of English do not necessarily correspond to those of Samskrit. Structurally Samskrit is very different from English. The suffixes are glued to words permanently. Hence the jumbling up of words in any sentence does not cause any change in meaning. But that is not so with English. Therefore, while translating sentences from English to Samskrit we only try to convey the puport and do not necessarily do word for word translation. In view of all these points, we feel that there is nothing wrong with the sentences स्थम्भकरिः कश्चन धान्यविशेषः अस्ति । कैंटोनीनाम काचित् भाषा अस्ति। ओरिस्साराज्यॆ स्थितं किञ्चन मण्डलम् ।
पंचतन्त्रे विद्यमानानि द्वित्राणि उदाहरणानि -
:कश्चिद्गोमायुर्नाम शृगालः ..... (मित्रलाभेदे - कथा २)
:तत्कथ्यतां तद्रक्षार्थं कश्चिदुपायः ...........(मित्रलाभेदे - कथा ६)
:ततश्च काकी किंचित्सरः प्राप्य..... (मित्रलाभेदे - कथा ७) - [[User:Shubhabangalore|Shubha]] ([[User talk:Shubhabangalore|चर्चा]]) १४:२८, १ ओगस्ट् २०११ (UTC)
::उत्तरार्थं धन्यवादाः। अधुना कार्यमग्नोऽस्मि, शीघ्रमेव स्वकथ्यं निवेदयिष्यामि। शुभमस्तु। -[[User:Hemant wikikosh|Hemant wikikosh]] ([[User talk:Hemant wikikosh|चर्चा]]) ०५:०१, २ ओगस्ट् २०११ (UTC)
== How can I change the name of a page? ==
I tried to change 'grammatically incorrect' name of an article to correct one but was not able to do so. If somebody knows please tell me how can I do so. Thanks. -[[User:Hemant wikikosh|Hemant wikikosh]] ([[User talk:Hemant wikikosh|चर्चा]]) १७:३४, ३१ जूलय् २०११ (UTC)
:Beside the "edit" button, there is the "move" button; click that and change the name. '''[[User:MikeLynch|<span style="color:#000080">Rao</span><span style="color:#00BFFF">7</span>]] •[[User talk:MikeLynch|<sup><span style="color:green"><small>Talk</small></span></sup>]]''' २१:११, ३१ जूलय् २०११ (UTC)
::Thanks स्वरूपवर्य. Previously this button used to be visible directly, while now (perhaps for quite some time) it is coming as a drop down option, so I couldn't notice. -[[User:Hemant wikikosh|Hemant wikikosh]] ([[User talk:Hemant wikikosh|चर्चा]]) ०५:२९, १ ओगस्ट् २०११ (UTC)
==कृपया सूचना परिवर्त्यताम्==
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कृपया अधः यथा लिखितं तथा परिवर्त्यताम्।
:मुंबई १८-२० नवम्बरे धृत विकिपरिषद-भारताय विद्वत्ताआवेदनपत्र स्वीकृत भवन्ति। अत्र आवेदनपत्र यच्छः। आवेदनाय अंतिमतिथि १५ अगस्त, २०११ अस्ति।
:Scholarship applications are invited for Wiki Conference India being held from 18-20 November, 2011 in Mumbai. Apply here. Last date for application is August 15, 2011.
:भारतीयविकिपरिषत् नवम्बर्-मासे १८-२० दिनाङ्केषु मुम्बयीनगरे भविष्यति। तन्निमित्तं गौरवधनं प्राप्तुम् आवेदनपत्राणि '''अत्र उपलभ्यन्ते'''। अन्तिमदिनाङ्कः आगस्ट् १५, २०११। - [[User:Shubhabangalore|Shubha]] ([[User talk:Shubhabangalore|चर्चा]]) १३:१०, १ ओगस्ट् २०११ (UTC)
::Thanks, Will notify organizers. '''[[User:MikeLynch|<span style="color:#000080">Rao</span><span style="color:#00BFFF">7</span>]] •[[User talk:MikeLynch|<sup><span style="color:green"><small>Talk</small></span></sup>]]''' ०२:५३, २ ओगस्ट् २०११ (UTC)
== भारतीय स्वातन्त्र्य दिवसावसरे अभिनन्दनानि ==
<big>सर्वानपि विकिपीडिया प्रयोक्तॄन् ''' भारतस्य स्वतान्त्र्य दिवसावसरे''' हार्दिकानि अभिनन्दनानि निवेदयामि। शुभमस्तु।</big> <br>-[[User:Hemant wikikosh|Hemant wikikosh]] ([[User talk:Hemant wikikosh|चर्चा]]) ०५:५४, १५ ओगस्ट् २०११ (UTC)
== Adopt an Article on sa wiki ==
I plan to organize a program "Adopt an Article" on sa wiki, just like en wiki. This would be a part of WCI outreach, and will help us increase sa wiki's cooperation in WCI. There are still 77 days to WCI, so we can start off. [[User:Vibhijain|<span style="color:#B57EDC">♛♚★Vaibhav Jain★♚♛</span>]] [[User talk:Vibhijain|<sup><span style="color:red"><small>Talk</small></span></sup>]] [[विशेष:विपत्रयोजक/Vibhijain|<sup><span style="color:blue"><small>Email</small></span></sup>]] १६:५४, ३ सप्तम्बर् २०११ (UTC)
== कृपया वर्गानां प्रयोगः क्रियताम् ==
सर्वेऽपि संस्कृतविद्वांसः सदस्याः निवेद्यन्ते यत् ते स्वकीयेषु लेखेषु वर्गः इत्यस्य प्रयोगं कुर्वन्तु। को नाम वर्गः? अनेन उपायेन हि लेखानां मध्ये गमनं सुकरं भवति। वर्गः तु काँश्चित् लेखान् समूहरूपेण योजयति। तदर्थं लेखस्य अन्ते <nowiki>[[वर्गः:कन्दुकसम्बन्धि-क्रीडाः]]</nowiki> इति योक्तव्यम् (एषः खलु ममोदाहरणं, वर्गस्य नाम यथेष्टमेव स्यात्)। तेन हि लेखस्य अन्ते वर्गस्य नाम दृश्यते।<br>
अपि च चेत् सः वर्गः पूर्वे निर्मितं न वर्तते तदा तस्य पाठः रक्तेन वर्णेन दृश्यते। तदर्थं भवन्तः वर्गं निर्मापयन्तु। निर्माणार्थं अन्वेषण-पिटके '''वर्गः:कन्दुकसम्बन्धि-क्रीडाः''' इति लिखन्तु। तेन तस्य वर्गस्य अविद्यमानत्व-विषये सन्देशः आगच्छति। तत्र क्लिक्कृत्य भवन्तः नूतनं पृष्ठं निर्मापयितुं शक्नुवन्ति। तत् पृष्ठं वर्गस्य पृष्ठं भवति। तत्र किञ्चिदपि पाठः लेखितव्यः, यथा हि- "एषः वर्गः कन्दुक-सम्बन्धि-क्रीडा विषये विद्यते।" इति। तेन सममेव लेखानां अधः स्थितः सः पाठः नीलवर्णेन भवति। अपि च पुनः तस्मिन् पृष्ठे उद्घाटिते सति पृष्ठे सर्वेऽपि वर्गगताः लेखाः दृश्यन्ते। वर्गस्य पूर्वे विद्यमानमेकम् उदाहरणम् अत्र क्लिक्कृत्य पश्यतु - [[http://sa.wikipedia.org/wiki/%E0%A4%B5%E0%A4%B0%E0%A5%8D%E0%A4%97%E0%A4%83:%E0%A4%AE%E0%A4%B9%E0%A4%BE%E0%A4%A6%E0%A5%8D%E0%A4%B5%E0%A5%80%E0%A4%AA%E0%A4%83]]. -[[User:Hemant wikikosh|Hemant wikikosh]] ([[User talk:Hemant wikikosh|चर्चा]]) १०:३१, २२ सप्तम्बर् २०११ (UTC)
== User:Avenue X at Cicero ==
I have observed that User:Avenue X at Cicero is continuously vandalizing important pages of sa.wikipedia. First he deleted some some important recent record from सम्भाषणम्:प्रबन्धक page, then when I reverted it, he/she did a similar act at a smaller level on the same page. Now the turn is of विचारमण्डपम् page where he has deliberately removed <nowiki><nowiki> </nowiki>tag to leave my message misleading. This is very intolerable. If this is due to not understanding संस्कृत, even then this is unacceptable, because in that case much care is required to do such changes (ironically this user has applied for adminship). The user should be warned not to undertake such acts without discussing. -[[User:Hemant wikikosh|Hemant wikikosh]] ([[User talk:Hemant wikikosh|चर्चा]]) १८:२३, २५ सप्तम्बर् २०११ (UTC)
: My apologies to Hemant regarding the removal of a "nowiki", as I believed he wanted to embed it and failed. Sorry Hemant, but you still have some of ''my'' questions to answer. '''''First he deleted some some important recent record from सम्भाषणम्:प्रबन्धक page''''': I ''think'' that process is called '''archiving'''. Well, one more thing I would like to say: Its funny that you post something in English when you want to speak against me, but in Sanskrit when users specifically request you post in English. Also, I believe a simple message at my talk page might have sufficed. Its amusing to have a person who claims to have been "offered" adminship and nominating himself [meaning o'course that he understands policies] using the विचारमण्डपम् like the [[:en:WP:ANI|ANI]]. [[User:Avenue X at Cicero|Avenue X at Cicero]] ([[User talk:Avenue X at Cicero|चर्चा]]) १८:३७, २५ सप्तम्बर् २०११ (UTC)
::@Avenue Kindly talk more respectfully. For me you are not an active member of sa wiki community, so i take your comment as one by an outsider.
::@Hemant Through i strongly condemn this comment of Avenue, but you need not to worry, everyone knows that some people think themselves as the ''master''. Anyone can contribute with translators, but only some like you contribute with professional knowledge, and also i think you know what is archiving, so there is no need to tell you that. Cheers! :) [[User:Vibhijain|<span style="color:#B57EDC">♛♚★Vaibhav Jain★♚♛</span>]] [[User talk:Vibhijain|<sup><span style="color:red"><small>Talk</small></span></sup>]] [[विशेष:विपत्रयोजक/Vibhijain|<sup><span style="color:blue"><small>Email</small></span></sup>]] ०९:३४, २६ सप्तम्बर् २०११ (UTC)
::: As I said, its funny having a user say that I believe I'm the ''master'', [http://sa.wikipedia.org/w/index.php?title=%E0%A4%B5%E0%A4%BF%E0%A4%95%E0%A4%BF%E0%A4%AA%E0%A5%80%E0%A4%A1%E0%A4%BF%E0%A4%AF%E0%A4%BE%E0%A4%B8%E0%A4%AE%E0%A5%8D%E0%A4%AD%E0%A4%BE%E0%A4%B7%E0%A4%A3%E0%A4%AE%E0%A5%8D:%E0%A4%AA%E0%A5%8D%E0%A4%B0%E0%A4%AC%E0%A4%82%E0%A4%A7%E0%A4%95&diff=prev&oldid=133456 when he himself says that he more knowledgeable than me (implied, he is the ''master'') in respect to this community]. [[User:Avenue X at Cicero|Avenue X at Cicero]] ([[User talk:Avenue X at Cicero|चर्चा]]) ११:४७, २६ सप्तम्बर् २०११ (UTC)
:::Even funnier is the fact that a person who opposed Hemant in his bid for adminship, citing the count [not quality] of his translations, appreciating his work. If you did have to defend [rather, appreciate] him, you could have changed your vote! The admin bid ended only days ago! [[User:Avenue X at Cicero|Avenue X at Cicero]] ([[User talk:Avenue X at Cicero|चर्चा]]) ११:५१, २६ सप्तम्बर् २०११ (UTC)
::: Also, @Vibhi, format your comments properly for your own sake. [[User:Avenue X at Cicero|Avenue X at Cicero]] ([[User talk:Avenue X at Cicero|चर्चा]]) ११:५४, २६ सप्तम्बर् २०११ (UTC)
@Avenue Is opposing someone for Adminship means to say his edits a bad?[[User:Vibhijain|<span style="color:#B57EDC">♛♚★Vaibhav Jain★♚♛</span>]] [[User talk:Vibhijain|<sup><span style="color:red"><small>Talk</small></span></sup>]] [[विशेष:विपत्रयोजक/Vibhijain|<sup><span style="color:blue"><small>Email</small></span></sup>]] १२:१४, २६ सप्तम्बर् २०११ (UTC)
:: I'm afraid you're mistaken. My argument is based on the ''rationale'' on which you opposed him. Not on the fact that you opposed him. [[User:Avenue X at Cicero|Avenue X at Cicero]] ([[User talk:Avenue X at Cicero|चर्चा]]) १२:४३, २६ सप्तम्बर् २०११ (UTC)
::: My rationale was that he nee more experience on working with main space, i have always agreed he i a brilliant scholar of Sanskrit. [[User:Vibhijain|<span style="color:#B57EDC">♛♚★Vaibhav Jain★♚♛</span>]] [[User talk:Vibhijain|<sup><span style="color:red"><small>Talk</small></span></sup>]] [[विशेष:विपत्रयोजक/Vibhijain|<sup><span style="color:blue"><small>Email</small></span></sup>]] १४:३३, २६ सप्तम्बर् २०११ (UTC)
== वर्गस्य विषये अधिकतरा सूचना... ==
<big>संस्कृतविद्वद्भ्यः धन्यवादं निवेदयामि यत्तैः/ताभिः वर्गाणां सुप्रयोगः समारब्धः। पुनः वर्गाणां विषये '''अधिकतरा सूचना''' [http://hi.wikipedia.org/wiki/%E0%A4%B8%E0%A4%A6%E0%A4%B8%E0%A5%8D%E0%A4%AF:Hemant_wikikosh/%E0%A4%8D%E0%A4%A1%E0%A4%B5%E0%A4%BE%E0%A4%A8%E0%A5%8D%E0%A4%B8%E0%A5%8D%E0%A4%A1%E0%A5%8D_%E0%A4%B2%E0%A4%B0%E0%A5%8D%E0%A4%A8%E0%A4%B0%E0%A5%8D%E0%A4%B8_%E0%A4%9F%E0%A4%BF%E0%A4%AA%E0%A5%8D%E0%A4%B8 अत्र](हिन्दीभाषायाम्) अथवा [http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Wikipedia:Category अत्र](आङ्ग्लभाषायां) प्राप्तुं शक्यते। हिन्दीभाषायां वर्गः तु श्रेणी इत्युच्यते, आङ्ग्लभाषायां वर्गस्तु Category इत्युच्यते। नमोनमः।</big>
-[[User:Hemant wikikosh|Hemant wikikosh]] ([[User talk:Hemant wikikosh|चर्चा]]) ०९:०५, २७ सप्तम्बर् २०११ (UTC)
== Notification: Administrator policy discussion closure ==
I am now closing the discussion on the "Request for adminship" matter. I have done this after the prolonged discussion. In the final version, the disputed sections have '''been omitted''', as they received fair opposition. Only those clauses which received unanimous support will be included in the final version. Any amendments required to this policy have to be discussed here, in the विचारमण्डपम्. The discussion, now archived, can be found [[विकिपीडियासम्भाषणम्:प्रबंधक/Discussion archive|here]]. Henceforth, all administrator tool requests will be linked to [[विकिपीडिया:प्रबंधक]]. Thank you for your cooperation. '''[[User:MikeLynch|<span style="color:#000080">Rao</span><span style="color:#00BFFF">7</span>]] •[[User talk:MikeLynch|<sup><span style="color:green"><small>Talk</small></span></sup>]]''' १८:२४, १ अष्टोबर् २०११ (UTC)
==सुभाषितफलकस्य परिवर्तनविषये==
भोः संस्कृतप्रेमिणः ! प्रणमामि ।<br />
मुख्यपृष्ठे विद्यमाने सुभाषितफलके परिवर्तनम् अपेक्षितम् इति अहं चिन्तयामि । प्रतिदिनम् एकं सुभाषितं तस्य सरलभाषया अर्थः यदि दीयेत तर्हि तत् द्रष्टॄणां सर्वेषाम् उपयोगाय सन्तोषाय च भवेत् इति भासते । तादृशं किञ्चित् मया सज्जीकृतमस्ति । [http://sa.wikipedia.org/wiki/%E0%A4%AF%E0%A5%8B%E0%A4%9C%E0%A4%95%E0%A4%83:Shubha/Subhashitaani] भवताम् अभिप्रायः सूच्यताम् । [[User:Shubha|शुभा]] ([[User talk:Shubha|चर्चा]]) १०:२६, १५ अक्टोबर् २०११ (UTC)<br>
::प्रशस्तो हि भवत्याः उद्योगः। परमत्र चेत् यथाशक्ति श्लोकानाम् अधस्तात् स्रोतांसि अपि भवेयुस्तदा तेषां सौन्दर्यवर्धनं स्याद् इति चिन्तयामि। धन्यवादाः। -[[User:Hemant wikikosh|Hemant wikikosh]] ([[User talk:Hemant wikikosh|चर्चा]]) १०:१४, १६ अक्टोबर् २०११ (UTC)
:::'''समर्थनम्'''। [[User:Vibhijain|<span style="color:#B57EDC">♛♚★Vaibhav Jain★♚♛</span>]] [[User talk:Vibhijain|<sup><span style="color:red"><small>Talk</small></span></sup>]] [[विशेष:विपत्रयोजक/Vibhijain|<sup><span style="color:blue"><small>Email</small></span></sup>]] ११:४५, १६ अक्टोबर् २०११ (UTC)
==transliteration tool==
Dear all,
Where is transliteration tool? How users can contribute without Devanagari font? let us continue using old tools which was written and edited [http://sa.wikipedia.org/w/index.php?title=%E0%A4%AE%E0%A4%BF%E0%A4%A1%E0%A5%80%E0%A4%AF%E0%A4%BE%E0%A4%B5%E0%A4%BF%E0%A4%95%E0%A5%80:Monobook.js&action=edit&undoafter=114905&undo=118934 by Junaidpv] untill we make a consensus among adms and b'crate. [[User:Bhawani Gautam|★भवानी गौतम★]] ([[User talk:Bhawani Gautam|चर्चा]]) १४:५०, २२ अष्टोबर् २०११ (UTC)
:The transliteration gadget has been replaced by the Narayam Mediawiki extension (by Junaidpv again). The key mapping is same. Are you having problems with it? '''[[User:MikeLynch|<span style="color:#000080">Rao</span><span style="color:#00BFFF">7</span>]] •[[User talk:MikeLynch|<sup><span style="color:green"><small>Talk</small></span></sup>]]''' ०८:२२, २६ अष्टोबर् २०११ (UTC)
==मुख्यपृष्ठे वार्ता विशेषाङ्कः भूमिकायाः स्थाने==
नमस्ते,
संस्कृतस्य विकिपीडिया मुख्यपृष्ठे तावत् भूमिकायाः स्थाने दैनिकवार्ताः स्थापयामि इति चिन्तितवान् अस्मि । येन च प्रतिदिनस्य वार्ता संस्कृतेन वयं पठितुं शक्नुमः । अद्यत्वे संस्कृतभाषायाः वार्तापत्रिकाः न सन्ति । अतः यदि संस्कृतस्य विकिपीडिया मुख्यपृष्ठे यदि दैनिकवार्तां योजयामः तर्हि तदाधारेण अद्यतनीनाः विषयाः, नूतनविषयाः च पीडियामध्ये प्राप्तुं शक्नुवन्ति । अद्यत्वे तु केवलं प्राचीनविषयाः एव सन्ति । अतः यदि भवन्तः सर्वेपि सहकुर्वन्तु इति सादरं प्रार्थये ।
[[User:Samvith2011|Samvith2011]] ([[User talk:Samvith2011|चर्चा]]) ०२:५८, २३ अष्टोबर् २०११ (UTC)
::मया पूर्वे एतादृश एकः प्रयासः आरब्ध आसीत्। परमहं अविच्छिन्नतया कर्त्तुं न शक्तवान्। चेद् भवान् एतस्य अविच्छिन्नताऽर्थं सन्नद्धोऽस्ति तदा एतादृश उद्योगः अवश्यमेव कर्त्तव्यः। एतन्नाम स्वागतार्हः अस्ति। -[[User:Hemant wikikosh|Hemant wikikosh]] ([[User talk:Hemant wikikosh|चर्चा]]) १५:१४, २३ अष्टोबर् २०११ (UTC)
:::उत्तमः विचारः । नैरन्तर्येण कर्तुं यदि शक्नुमः तर्हि सफलता तु सुनिश्चिता एव । प्रयतताम् । शम् । [[User:Shubha|शुभा]] ([[User talk:Shubha|चर्चा]]) ०५:२५, २५ अष्टोबर् २०११ (UTC)
== दीपपर्वणि बहुशः शुभाशयाः ==
<big>विकिपीडियायाः सर्वेभ्यः पाठकेभ्यः सम्पादकेभ्यश्च '''दीपपर्वावसरे''' हार्दाः शुभाशयाः। इति शम्॥</big> -[[User:Hemant wikikosh|Hemant wikikosh]] ([[User talk:Hemant wikikosh|चर्चा]]) ०७:०२, २६ अष्टोबर् २०११ (UTC)
:Same to you, hope we will be able to cross 20, 000+ cross by next diwali. [[User:Vibhijain|<span style="color:#B57EDC">♛♚★Vaibhav Jain★♚♛</span>]] [[User talk:Vibhijain|<sup><span style="color:red"><small>Talk</small></span></sup>]] [[विशेष:विपत्रयोजक/Vibhijain|<sup><span style="color:blue"><small>Email</small></span></sup>]] ११:२१, २६ अष्टोबर् २०११ (UTC)
== Cut and Paste Moves ==
The following cut-and-paste moves were recently done here:
*[[दिल्ली]] to [[देहली]]
*[[उत्तराखण्डः]] to [[उत्तराञ्चलः]]
Kindly see to it that such moves are not performed since they break the attribution history. Also, please take a look at my message regarding gadgets at [[विकिपीडियासम्भाषणम्:दूतावासः/Embassy#Gadgets]].
Sorry for writing in english. Regards--[[User:Siddhartha Ghai|Siddhartha Ghai]] ([[User talk:Siddhartha Ghai|चर्चा]]) १९:४८, १ नवम्बर् २०११ (UTC)
:Thanks Siddhartha, will perform a histmerge soon. '''[[User:MikeLynch|<span style="color:#000080">Rao</span><span style="color:#00BFFF">7</span>]] •[[User talk:MikeLynch|<sup><span style="color:green"><small>Talk</small></span></sup>]]''' ०६:२२, ७ नवम्बर् २०११ (UTC)
== Main page news section ==
Dear all,
I greatly appreciate all of your efforts in reviving news section on the main page. But if you'd notice, I did some edits today, and in connection with that, I'd like to mention a few core principles.
*Remove external links on the main page. (We don't want our visitors to go away to some other site as soon as they land here ;) )
*Stay '''neutral''' and '''verifiable'''. Our primary aim is not to report news; our aim is to make sure that visitors read our articles on recent events. Now, we don't want unverified information on the main page, because we will receive a lot of criticism for that.
In that light, I would like to '''propose''' a few guidelines.
*Each line in the news entered must have at least ''one'' valid wikilink (a blue link) to an existing article.
*The wikilinked article should be updated with the recent news, along with (most importantly) a reference from a reliable news source (prominent news channels, newspapers).
I don't seek to make the process too complicated (like on enwiki), but this is just to maintain some verifiability.
Please state your comments below. '''[[User:MikeLynch|<span style="color:#000080">Rao</span><span style="color:#00BFFF">7</span>]] •[[User talk:MikeLynch|<sup><span style="color:green"><small>Talk</small></span></sup>]]''' ०६:१०, ७ नवम्बर् २०११ (UTC)
::Mr. Chidroop has been doing good job in news section. I welcome the preceding suggestions by Mr. Mike and in fact I was having similar sentiments abt news section. My comments go pointwise below:
* External link removal is very much required.
* Neutrality and Verifiability must be there. We must ensure that no POV is there as a news-item. And verifiability is something which adds to quality of our work so whoever adds some news must ensure that it is from a reliable source and presented in a tone which is neutral.
*Having one wikilink at least, per news item, is welcome, but finally it depends upon whether that day one has enough time to make such article or not (because even on Hindi wiki sometimes it becomes difficult, and we have less active users then hiwiki). We can not omit an important news simply because we didn't have related article; though we must try our best for having core articles related to news items. And also ensure that in absence of article also, the news sentence is complete and reliable.
*Wikiliinked article must be updated: no doubt in this.
::I hope we will be able to improve in these aspects. -[[User:Hemant wikikosh|Hemant wikikosh]] ([[User talk:Hemant wikikosh|चर्चा]]) ०७:००, ७ नवम्बर् २०११ (UTC)
:::Thanks Hemant, appreciate your points. Yes, I agree its difficult to create an article suddenly, but I suggest creating a stub, if nothing else. This is because we need a reliable news source as a reference, and if we don't have an article, we won't have a place to insert the reference. So, I feel that verifiability is top preference. If we don't get a means to give a reference to a reliable news source, then we don't put it. What say? '''[[User:MikeLynch|<span style="color:#000080">Rao</span><span style="color:#00BFFF">7</span>]] •[[User talk:MikeLynch|<sup><span style="color:green"><small>Talk</small></span></sup>]]''' ०७:४८, ७ नवम्बर् २०११ (UTC)<br>
I still have doubt in using such compulsion, because even English wiki sometimes gives link to article which has merely tangential mention of the news. Suppose the news is related to space-walk by an astronaut from a spacecraft Y, then any experienced contributor can add this news to main page but to make an article of spacecraft Y, to such a detail that related spacewalks are also mentioned, will certainly require a technically aware writer. English wiki, having large reach, always has enough writers who are sufficiently exposed to any given topic. But here if we impose such policy, some of important news will never enter into the news section because of lack of a qualified article-writer.
That said, having an article on each current affair topic is always a welcome improvement. I think we can make this as a guideline but not a compulsory rule. '''Let us start it as a lax rule and then if successful we can make it compulsory''' (i.e. having at least one article which gives a reference to the news). Perhaps we can provide reference to one-liner news on the Sanskrit wikinews page (exists as सद्यः कालीन सम्भवाः on this wiki, and is unused nowadays)-[[User:Hemant wikikosh|Hemant wikikosh]] ([[User talk:Hemant wikikosh|चर्चा]]) १३:०१, ७ नवम्बर् २०११ (UTC).
:I don't mind not having an article. Its the news source I'm worried about. We should not post anything without having a clear news source. How about this: If it is possible to create an article, then the news reference should go there. If creating the article is complex, then the news source should compulsorily be posted on the talk page of the News template, in order for anyone else to verify the material. '''[[User:MikeLynch|<span style="color:#000080">Rao</span><span style="color:#00BFFF">7</span>]] •[[User talk:MikeLynch|<sup><span style="color:green"><small>Talk</small></span></sup>]]''' १३:२३, ७ नवम्बर् २०११ (UTC)
:I don't prefer wikinews as a source, again because its a public wiki, and hence not really reliable. '''[[User:MikeLynch|<span style="color:#000080">Rao</span><span style="color:#00BFFF">7</span>]] •[[User talk:MikeLynch|<sup><span style="color:green"><small>Talk</small></span></sup>]]''' १३:२५, ७ नवम्बर् २०११ (UTC)
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