विज्ञानकोश: सम्बन्धितम्संपादित करें
नमस्ते महीत्गर्, I am not an expert in sanskrit, actcually I know only thr basicd. Eventhough, as far as my knowledge, sanskrit words have meaning some what different from that they have in their common usage in hindi, marathi, gujarati etc. For example विज्ञान in sanskrit means 'wisdom' or 'special knowledge' while the same word means 'science' in hindi. But if we make a compromise for hindi, we will have to suffer a lot in other parts of the sanskrit encyclopedia. There are much more citations - like अन्तरिक्ष in hindi means space, but in sanskrit it means atmosphere. And for science, the common usage in sanskrit is शास्त्रम्, not विज्ञान. And please remember that here we are creating a sanskrit encyclopedia, not a hindi/marathi/bangali one. विश्वकोश: is a fare translation for encyclopedia. But the word doesn't convey the entire meaning of an encyclopedia. विश्व means 'World' and कोश means 'Cell' or Collection. But विज्ञानकोश: is a better word for encyclopedia as it means collection of wisdom / knowledge. And please remember, the spoken sanskrit dictionary is also like wikipedia. any one can edit it. So I hope we can change to विज्ञानकोश: or to विश्वविज्ञानकोश:. Expecting your positive reply --Naveen Sankar ०४:५७, १० फाल्गुने २००९ (UTC)
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संपादनं प्रवर्ततेसंपादित करें
महोदय, मया कानिचित् नवानि परिवर्तनानि कृतानि (ट्रांस्लेट-विकि इत्यस्मिन्)। भवान् तानि समीक्षताम्, किंचित् त्रुटिर्भवति चेत्, तत् मां ज्ञापयतु । -धन्यवादः -Hemant wikikosh ११:२७, १७ ज्येष्ठाषाढके २००९ (UTC)
Which messages to be translated?संपादित करें
महोदय, Though I have started translation, but I want to know whether all Mediawiki: namespace messages are used in a wikipedia of any language or only some of them? If only some of them then we can focus on them.
A page on english wikipedia http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Special:AllMessages gives a list of message, please tell me after reading it if it is the exhaustive list of system messages used by a wikipedia. -- धन्यवादः -Hemant wikikosh ११:३१, १८ ज्येष्ठाषाढके २००९ (UTC)
OK Now I have found the way. I am using 500 most used messages in Mediawiki, which are presented on translatewiki website as a table. I hope it will make the work easier. -पुनः मिलामः। -Hemant wikikosh ११:५४, १९ ज्येष्ठाषाढके २००९ (UTC)
Dear Mahitgar ji, Is there any way to direct one message's content to the value of the other, because if it is possible then we can make our future work easier. e.g. word 'hide' is used in many different messages if we somehow make others eqaul to one message's value, then in future if we want to change the sanskrit equivalent of 'hide', we need not hunt for all such words and change them, instead we can change that single message to which all other are directed. - Thanks. -नमस्कारः -Hemant wikikosh १३:१८, २० ज्येष्ठाषाढके २००९ (UTC)
Translation Requestसंपादित करें
|विकिमीडियाकोषे Tacloban City अनेन सम्बद्धमाध्यमाः सन्ति।|
पंच शतानि अधिकतमं प्रयुक्ताः संदेशाः इत्यस्मात् मया दीर्घपाठान् विहाय सर्वाणि अनुवादितानि सन्ति। कृपया तान् पश्यतु स्व-प्रतिक्रियां च ददातु।
शनैः शनैः अन्यानपि संदेशान् अनुवादयिष्यामि।
अथ मया मासाः आंग्लरूपेण अनुवादिताः। यतो हि चैत्रवैशाखादीनां कालगणना प्रणाली एव भिन्ना अस्ति, सा अस्मिन् विकि-तंत्रे नोपलब्धास्ति।
केचित् अनुवादाः प्राथमिक-रूपेण कृताः सन्ति। तत्र केचित् श्रेयांसि पदानि अपि भविष्यत्काले मनसि आगन्तुं शक्नुवन्ति, तानि पदानि तदा परिवर्तयिष्यामः। परंतु एतादृशेसु अपि पदेषु अधुनापि शुद्धता पूर्णतया विहिताऽस्ति।
-शुभमस्तु। -Hemant wikikosh १०:४२, २५ ज्येष्ठाषाढके २००९ (UTC)
मेरा प्रश्नसंपादित करें
प्रिय माहितगारजी, नमस्कार।
कुछ सदस्यों के नाम के साथ bot लगा रहता है, ये bot क्या है। क्या ये code हैं? अक्सर इनके user page भी नहीं बने होते। -Hemant wikikosh ११:५९, ३ आषाढश्रावणे २००९ (UTC)
नमस्कारः माहितगार महोदय,
With regard to your offer to me to apply for adminship. I want to say that, right now I am unable to take up this responsibility, because of continuous personal work. But I can assure you that if you take the permanent adminship, I will try to help you in linguistic part fully.
While I will have to learn all the procedures dedicating much time, I feel you can run the wikipedia with more regularity and with due procedures as you are already working on Marathi and Sanskrit wikipedia with privileges.
If you consider yourself unsuited because of linguistic shortcomings, then I want to say that, for routine works like deletion of undesired pages, uploading image for the day, welcoming a new member etc., not much sanskrit knowledge is needed. And wherever there is a need to write standard Sanskrit message or text, you simply post me it in English, either on my योजकसंभाषणं or e-mail id and I will translate it for you. This will also help you improve your Sanskrit abilities. And for non-standard messages you can also use English, Hindi or even "non-standard" Sanskrit, in fact I would encourage the last one, because it will result in improviing the vocabulary.
Even I can provide my thoughts to develop a collective vision for the Sanskrit wikipedia, and some ideas to attract Sanskrit scholars and students on Sanskrit wikipedia, hoping those would work. Also I can help to develop a standard so that whatever set of articles are there on this small wikipedia, those are self-sufficient and not unbalanced in terms of their coverage. i.e. we can first decide some particular areas in which there should be sufficient information on sa-wikipedia. We can also add usages of important day to day Sanskrit words in the form of a complete page, for reference of new-comers, and advertise that page on the Main page. But I am not in a position to become an administrator right now. Sorry for that.
You do continue your nomination and I will give support. Also tell me what is the procedure for the adminship so that I can help you in that. Please give a reply to this message soon.
-Hemant wikikosh १०:०६, १८ सेप्टेम्बरमासः २००९ (UTC)
Some ideas for Sanskrit wikipediaसंपादित करें
check out Old English Wikipedia. Both sanskrit and old english are not spoken languages but what they're doing on their site is interesting, they allow transition and help introduction pages to better orient people to the layout of their site. anyhow, i'd love to know how i can help. --ज्ञान ११:४६, २१ मेय् २०१० (UTC)
Writing Standards for Wikipedia Sanskritसंपादित करें
Why don't we create a DOs and DONOTs in English for writing standards here. For example:
- Don't use English Numerals(0123456789) , use Devanagari Numerals(०१२३४५६७८९).
- Don't use S for as avagraha, instead use ऽ
- Don't use pipe | as purna viram instead use ।
- Do give a space before and after । and ॥ (This can/should be discussed.)
- Don't replace ङ् with an ं in the middle of word as in Hindi, use like this शङ्कर not शंकर.
- Don't replace ञ् with an ं in the middle of word as in Hindi, use like this पतञ्जलि not पतंजलि.
- Don't replace ण् with an ं in the middle of word as in Hindi, use like this पण्डित not पंडित.
- Don't replace न् with an ं in the middle of word as in Hindi, use like this मन्त्रिः not मंत्रिः.
- Do use म् in last of word or sentence, when the word /sentence terminates like उज्ज्वल अस्मि अहम् not उज्ज्वल अस्मि अहं.
and all other we can come up with.
What do you think ?
Help in creationसंपादित करें
Please help in creation of Sanskrit Wikiquote here: http://meta.wikimedia.org/wiki/Requests_for_new_languages/Wikiquote_Sanskrit
Invite to WikiConference India 2011संपादित करें
ध्वजः इति शीर्षकं भवेत्संपादित करें
@Mahitgar: ध्वज Named article you have been created may be wrong Named. It's name should be ध्वजः. You can see regarding rules here. So please change the name. I show your all talks in English so I also write in English If you comfortable with Sanskrit, than also tell me. Thank you for Editing. ॐNehalDaveND•✉•✎ ०५:४३, २२ मार्च २०१५ (UTC)
- @Mahitgar: Thank you for renaming ध्वज. Here I think you doing preparation work of ध्वजः. preparation is a good habit. For this wikipedida providing us sandbox system. So please use this sandbox. It is better option to do this kind of preparation works. Thank you keep editing. ॐNehalDaveND•✉•✎ ०९:०२, २२ मार्च २०१५ (UTC)
I prefer article talk pages, article talk pages encourage collaborative culture and individual sandboxes tend to kill collaborative culture. (As far as talk page getting lengthy I will be adding show and hide templates so that should not remain a problem. I hope sanskrit wikipedia can help in collaborating improving articles across Indian languages based on info from Sanskrit literature and translations there of.
Thanks for your communications